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fishead March 27 2008, 18:25:48 UTC
it's like all the mods and rockers shit from England... hell, when I was growing up skins and punks and goths were always getting into fights over something or other... even the ones who were relatively friendly with each other.

I remember this one guy that everybody called Shithead Shawn (or Shithead for short)... he was on the receiving end of a boot party that reportedly resulted in the loss of one testicle, and a semi-permanent back injury... Years later, in a moment of drunken stupidity he mouthed of to one of the guys involved in the original incident... and got stomped again... this time, however, when he took a boot in the back it righted whatever had been wrong before... and the semi-permanent back injury went away.

I think they became good friends after that, at the very least Shithead was a lot more respectful.

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pirat_ponton March 27 2008, 19:48:18 UTC
Interesting story! Too bad he didn't get his testicle back, too.

I don't really have any concrete knowledge of the "mods-versus-rockers" thing. Watching Quadrophenia doesn't count, right? So I tend to share Ringo's sentiment, when asked if he's a "mod" or a "rocker": something along the lines of uh, no, I'm a "mocker".

Regardless of my personal musical & "fashion" tastes (admittedly, I don't have much of the latter), though, I tend to identify more with the so-called "emo"s in this case, though that may be because of what I perceive as their possible "subversion of traditional masculinity" that I mentioned above.

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threepunchstuff March 27 2008, 19:10:37 UTC
Que lastima para los niños pokemones.

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pirat_ponton March 27 2008, 19:50:14 UTC
Continuing the darkly humorous cliche, I suppose many people would assume the "emo"s are "asking for it", and maybe some of the "emo"s think "they have it coming"?

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silentjack March 27 2008, 20:17:49 UTC
I think it's a two-fold thing, myself... Part of it is indeed that general socially conservative ideal of this particular subculture trying to thwart not only stereotypic and traditional concepts of (Latin American) masculinity, I would think... The views of "masculine" and "feminine" in chunks of Latin America (from what I can gather) are highly radicalised, to such a degree, perhaps, that it reinforces and destroys the bizarre juxtaposition of Catholic penitence, and then overt, cavalierly brazen, borderline-hedonistic sexuality-on-display (w.r.t. Carnivale, especially) in Brazil, Argentina, etc ( ... )

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pirat_ponton March 28 2008, 01:21:30 UTC
I hadn't considered the "whiteness" thing, which as you point out relates to economics as well.

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silentjack March 27 2008, 20:18:01 UTC
Welcome back from your hiatus, by the way.

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pirat_ponton March 28 2008, 01:20:01 UTC
Thank you!

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