Epic videos

[petronia]

I'm supposed to be studying for my stats midterm, but you know. XD

Fall Out Boy - A Little Less Sixteen Candles, A Little More "Touch Me": linked on this thread of worldserpent's, wherein I gripe pathetically that it was not the albion_fic/slacken_ties generation that got "mainstream" media slash fandom interested in bandslash. XD; Though then I went home** and thought about it

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[arboretum]

Oh man, the bandslash commentary went completely over my head, but then, I've never really figured bandslash out to begin with. I remember that Ini-D parody though! My little brother is really into Lucky Star... I find it really hilarious in small doses, but it's literally impossible to make me watch more than 1 episode at a time. Actually, it's probably best 5 minutes at a time... (though in general Lucky Star holds my attention better than Azumanga ever did, Azumanga being the only other 4-koma based anime I know of.)

[petronia]

The worst thing is I don't even really read bandslash! About 95% of the time it doesn't do what I want it to do, namely act as a form of music criticism/pomo exegesis. With h0tt s3xx as warm chocolate syrup garnish on the sundae and no more (though no less). XD

I used to like embitca's Eminem fics. Before she went and locked them.

If it's meant to be watched 5min at a time it's a perfecto match for my current attention span. orz

[arboretum]

*g* if you need uploads, I can provide up to around ep12 or something, will have to check to be sure.

[petronia]

I would love uploads, actually. XD ♥

[sub_divided]

That's a parody? It's...exactly what was in Initial D! Only with the parts reassigned -- makes you wonder why they didn't just recycle the audio like in those movie trailer parodies.

Neil Gaiman

*dies*

[petronia]

Being my brain's retarded shorthand for "I bet Neil Gaiman would like this music." orz

It's aniparo, I guess? With the drawing style. That's the comedic value by me.

[cis]

my running theory for why indieslash doesn't work the way popslash does is that indie fans just take indie too seriously to write good fic for it. I always forget, but popslash was a total revelation because the quality of the writing was so good - and if you read the popslashers' old fic, be they in the sentinel or sports night or wherever they came from, they're not a patch on the stuff produced in the nsyncslash heyday, it was an incredibly fertile extended moment. Obv, positive internet energy being nomadic and all, some of it was sheer lucky accident and some of it opportunism, but... at the core, you've this group of twenty-somethings, thirty-somethings, who are pretty strongly aware that they're writing fic about, you know, a boy band, whose awesomeness and whose lameness are fairly closely tied together. I don't want to call it irony, but-- they're capable of more separation, they have a more complicated relationship. And all this eyeliner-emo/pop-punk stuff is pretty heavily flagged in all our heads as 'for the teenagers', no

[cis]

this also ties into my running theory that slightly-lame music is more emotionally affecting because you don't take it seriously and therefore let your guard down. ...also that Great Art is fundamentally unlovable, but this is where i lose people. :(

[petronia]

Taking it too seriously, YES. And that is why the only good Franz fics were jantalaimon's drabbles and that rentboy one featuring Morrissey.

I sort of toyed with the idea of the Weiss Kreuz Principle, you know, what if it needs to be bad so that fandom can make it good? But that's unfair, I don't want to say that the music is bad because it often isn't bad, baggage aside. XD; If it has something to do with fan attitude... I'm ambivalent about pretty much everything I like, so maybe that's why. XD;; I think the fact of liking anything embarrasses me; I have to struggle on a daily basis not to mercilessly mock the things I enjoy, because it skews the picture. And is a transparent ploy besides.

Though I'm never going to grok how the music isn't prioritized in all this. XD; Like I was saying to Bing below, it's not that I don't get the appeal (I think), it's that music aside there's no impetus for me to hop onto the factoid-interview-videoclip funride (self-sustaining once on).

Would have more to say but I'm falling asleep. orz

[cis]

Yeah, I think... I think the WK principle would be taking it too far, but I think there has to be something unsatisfying in it that becomes your hook. Whether it's 'but there's so much more they could be doing with the superman mythos' or... whatever. For the girl writing Manics fanfic it's straightforwardly true that Richey is a genius and an angel and tragically broken and everyone who matters knows this: she has nothing to prove, nothing to justify

[one_if_by_land]

re: approachability in popslash/bandslash, it's much easier to fic and speculate about a group of people who appears to you as completely human, who you adore and want to succeed not necessarily because of their musical talents but more in a way that you'd want a friend or relative to achieve success than-- a band whose music you find pretentiously but startlingly brilliant. there's definite crossover though, because I can envision radiohead slash just as easily as nsync but the music isn't similar at all. but radiohead comparatively would be different than sayyyy. . . . thievery corporation, dying.

re: new order's crystal, I never thought of that! how the music video is completely in front of the hip curve-- it was before scenesters lost credibility; before scenesters even existed. incredible! I love that song/video, though; I am willing to forgive the 80s for everything because it produced new order♥.

[petronia]

Ahaha omg tell me about the Radiohead slash. XDD Seriously - yeah, I figured something like that, and it's where I depart from the norm (as proven by the fact that I'm not and have never really been in any pop RPS fandoms). I actually do get the appeal but it's not enough to make me want to read/write, because it is sort of like ficcing about Just People. I need some kind of larger-than-life hook, I guess. XD

Thievery Corporation. *dies* Pose too little of a challenge to be interesting, actually, in the way of Seigaku's Golden Pair all DJ duos ever. It's like, who else are you going to slash them with? But if you're going that route may as well do Daft Punk. STRIVE FOR THE TOP. OF THE PYRAMID

[one_if_by_land]

laughing, I think the hook has to be some kind of musical politics-slash-drama; aesthetics and superficiality were why I fell for Johnny's, but the industry really is fascinating in a trainwreck kind of way. Johnny Kitagawa took the concept of legitimately selling boys' talents to a completely higher level. and with blur where was the ~epic falling out~ and technically radiohead was a high school band that formed at an all boys boarding school (I think you know where I'm going with this~). In comparison thievery corporation (or daft punk, DYING DYING) are like the mr and mrs smiths of fandom. (UNLESS YOU CREATED AN AU WHERE THERE WAS LIKE.... A DJ SWAP..... AND DUOS SWAPPED PARTNERS FOR A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME.... alksjdf I've been watching too much trashy TV)

[petronia]

I won't lie: when I think about Johnny's, besides the Kinki Kids or Arashi numbers or whatever, I think of polemic on Neomarxisme. XD Close to the last entry there is a Johnny's rant, again! Neomarxisme's paradigm appeals to me because if were expressed through fic, the JE fandom would consist of yakuza thrillers. And by yakuza I mean Asami Ryuuichi.

I didn't know that about Radiohead. XD Learn something new, etc.

I was at a conference today about sampling and digital rights management and so on, and someone mentioned that we're living in a "remix culture". That ought to be the title of your story: "Remix Culture". XD

[jantalaimon]

I probably won't get to watch these all with your commentary till this weekend at least, but I want you to know I love you all the same after reading all this. XDXDXDXD

[petronia]

XDDDD It's sad, but I think I could blog about music videos forever.