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garpu November 13 2009, 16:49:45 UTC
Five bucks says the Time Lord who intercepted him was Straxus. ;)

I love how incredibly morally ambiguous that one is.

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persiflage_1 November 13 2009, 17:11:24 UTC
Five bucks says the Time Lord who intercepted him was Straxus. ;)

LOL

I love how incredibly morally ambiguous that one is.

Yes!

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garpu November 13 2009, 18:04:29 UTC
Does make you wonder who Straxus pissed off.

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persiflage_1 November 13 2009, 18:37:31 UTC
Someone very powerful, methinks! (And repeatedly, I'd suggest!)

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persiflage_1 November 13 2009, 17:12:13 UTC
Yes - that was one thing that RTD *did* get right in JE!

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persiflage_1 November 13 2009, 17:20:18 UTC
And Martha's ultimatum to the Daleks and Davros. Rawr! (I love it when she goes all 'I'm gonna go commando on your arses' to the Daleks!)

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scarfman November 13 2009, 17:28:07 UTC

- Oh that Nyder's a proper Hitler, isn't he?
Watching this in the 80s a friend said to me, "The English have never forgiven the Germans, have they?"
The Doctor's never heard of Davros, despite the number of encounters he's had with the Daleks up to this point.
At the beginning and the end of this serial the Daleks are said to have quite an impact on the history of the universe, but when the TARDIS first lands on Skaro the Doctor's never heard of Daleks. He really was a rotten student, wasn't he?
This, or the last half of it, was the first Doctor Who I saw, and I was instantly hooked.

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persiflage_1 November 13 2009, 17:32:26 UTC
Watching this in the 80s a friend said to me, "The English have never forgiven the Germans, have they?"

The really sad thing is that Hitler was as much our fault as his. Since the post-WW1 treaties gave him fuel for his anger...

At the beginning and the end of this serial the Daleks are said to have quite an impact on the history of the universe, but when the TARDIS first lands on Skaro the Doctor's never heard of Daleks. He really was a rotten student, wasn't he?

Yup!

This, or the last half of it, was the first Doctor Who I saw, and I was instantly hooked.

I am not surprised!

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abstruse_fangrl November 13 2009, 19:56:14 UTC

- Davros thinks there can never be cooperation between species.

And that's at the very heart of what it means to be a Dalek.

Why don't the Doctor, Harry or Sarah notice the Doctor's dropped the Time Ring?

I wondered this myself when I watched this episode!

Davros is begging the Daleks for pity? Well that's a waste of breath, isn't it!Especially when I think of TSE/JE and how the Dalek's create the one who made them. Not a lot of pit, reverence, or respect to be had there ( ... )

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persiflage_1 November 13 2009, 20:14:37 UTC
And that's at the very heart of what it means to be a Dalek.

Yes - and funnily enough, it's the reason why the Doctor decided not to destroy the Daleks - because opposing them leads to alliances between other races, thereby proving Davros spectacularly wrong!

I wondered this myself when I watched this episode!

It's really baffling because it makes a lot of noise, and it's not like there was a lot of background noise to hide the sound!

Especially when I think of TSE/JE and how the Dalek's create the one who made them. Not a lot of pity, reverence, or respect to be had there!

True!

My notes (mind you it's all from memory as I couldn't wait to watch it when I bought it last month!):

Hee, okay!

- I love Harry Sullivan to a ridiculous degree.

Harry is fantastic!

- Apparently the Doctor had no problem with this doctor wielding a gun, so why go all moody on Martha in TSS/TPS?

Short answer: Rusty is a wanker!

- Those clam things were grooooooss

Enough to put anyone of shellfish for life, if you ask me!

- Watching this, and then ( ... )

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lost_spook November 14 2009, 15:06:24 UTC
Harry! Love Harry holding the landmine.

And: Somthing that doesn't make sense (1) - Why does Davros' chair have an off-switch for his life support system built into it? There's NO logic in that!

Yes,a nd it's never occurred to me... :lol: I can only suppose that he has suicidal tendencies, or given his sense of self-importance, he thinks threatening to kill himself if people don't do what they're told is a serious threat.

And you omitted the amusing fact that this episode is clearly a direct crossover with Allo Allo. Which is always a little distracting... Heh.

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persiflage_1 November 14 2009, 15:13:43 UTC
Harry! Love Harry holding the landmine.

Yes!!

Yes, and it's never occurred to me... :lol: I can only suppose that he has suicidal tendencies, or given his sense of self-importance, he thinks threatening to kill himself if people don't do what they're told is a serious threat.

Hmm, maybe!

And you omitted the amusing fact that this episode is clearly a direct crossover with Allo Allo. Which is always a little distracting... Heh.

I did - mainly because I was unsure whether non-Brits would have the faintest idea what I was on about!

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lost_spook November 14 2009, 19:59:28 UTC
It's actually amazing how much illogic there is in Genesis and how it manages to still stand up as this serious, meaningful, bleak-ish set of episodes. And I mean, the two domes are linked by a secret tunnel?! And yet it does.

Heh, true - it's very popular all over Europe but I don't think it broke into America. But all this needed was an appearance from Michelle of the Resistance... I find myself always cheering a little bit on those rare occasions when I see Lt Gruber in anything else. (He's in POTC as well. Guy Siner, obviously, but he'll always be Gruber). So I have a sneaking sympathy for Ravon, who seems completely out of his depth here.

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persiflage_1 November 14 2009, 20:02:34 UTC
It's actually amazing how much illogic there is in Genesis and how it manages to still stand up as this serious, meaningful, bleak-ish set of episodes. And I mean, the two domes are linked by a secret tunnel?! And yet it does.

I know! How utterly barking mad is it that the domes are linked by a not-so-secret tunnel?!

Heh, true - it's very popular all over Europe but I don't think it broke into America. But all this needed was an appearance from Michelle of the Resistance... I find myself always cheering a little bit on those rare occasions when I see Lt Gruber in anything else. (He's in POTC as well. Guy Siner, obviously, but he'll always be Gruber). So I have a sneaking sympathy for Ravon, who seems completely out of his depth here.

Gosh! I hadn't realised that was Guy Siner - but then again, it's been years since I saw PotC OR 'Allo 'Allo!

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