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[perelleth]

I have not given up, just slowed down the re reading pace...

The Shadow of the Past

One of  my favourite chapters, despite, again, its being packed with information.  I love how it hints at Frodo’s slowly awaking restlessness. These years between 3001 and 3018 are an interesting period, I believe, from the pov of gap filling.

“There were rumours

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[perelleth]

Uh...I doubt anything can be of much help... but glad anyway that it served to entertain you for a moment. All one can do is grieving as openly as possible and then keep going on. *Hugs again.*

[perelleth]

THe dead do not care, Juno. All the grieving and worrying is left for the living to deal with, sadly.

One Monday morning past July I opened up my inbox to a message with this subject: "X died." X being a long time friend. I was thousands of Km away, so it is doubly strange. I had that feeling of being in two worlds at the same time: one of private grieving and anoher of normal day to day frantic work. IT is strange.

Maybe that is why I so much like this particular scene in FOTR of Frodo being suddenly thrown into a different world, while all around him life is still the same. Tomorrow it wil feel a bit better, and so on. I hope. YOu are welcome to ramble as endlessly as you feel like. It helps.

[meckinock]

You're making me reach for my bookshself, Perelleth! This just goes to show you, you can't skim anything Tolkien wrote - there are layers upon layers to discover.

Surely Aragorn must have followed at a slower pace, because we find him watching the road to Bree in September when the Ring Bearer departs The Shire, and we had left him in Mirkwood in March with the creature Gollum.

Butterbur tells the hobbits that Aragorn was "in and out pretty often last spring" and Aragorn tells the hobbits he came "west with Gandalf in the spring," so I figured Aragorn and Gandalf left Mirkwood together to travel back to Bree.

[perelleth]

LOLOL, thank you! I did not reach Bree yet! I am trying to keep the pace of the chapters when I can.But of course you have these events fresher in your mind!

It is fascinating. From that sentence it would be clear that they both travelled back together. Yet in the Unfinished Tales it tells of Gandalf's speedy trip to The Shire. So good that he was not alone!

What has me gaping it the speed of that trip and the many miles these poor people had under their belts when they picked up the hobbits on their Quest. Together Gandalf and Aragorn had crossed from Mordor and Back with the same easiniess I cross the Atlantic on a bad year!

How and when Elrond learnt the news about the One Ring and what he began doing interests me as well, as well as the flow of news with the Havens!

[meckinock]

I just assumed Gandalf and Aragorn would make a stop at Rivendell before heading to the Shire - actually I if I remember right, that was Chapter 1 of Nilmandra's HLIII.

[perelleth]

I think so, as well, that's why I wrote that Aragorn might have followed Gandalf at a slower pace and might have stopped at Rivendell to plot with Elrond and the twins, while Gandalf sped up towards the Shire... ;-) I did not remeber HL III, though! ;-)

[fafojoy]

This is one of my favorite chapters of the book.. so much happens. I think this chapter and the Council of Elrond are two of the ones I go to most for reference.

[perelleth]

yes, despite being full of telling, there are hints to so many things happening! I realy love them.

[redheredh]

Very interesting thoughts about Frodo and Gandalf. I have always felt that Frodo was indeed ready to go to Rivendell. But, not ready to go on from there. Not until after the Council. Then, he realized that outer dangers would indeed overrun the Shire, if he rejected doing what fate had steered him into.

I like very much the atmosphere in all of Tolkien's stories - that events do not happen in a vacuum. History has its own laws of physics, and what goes before precipitates what follows.

Signs and omens of the encroaching shadows... ;) so it begins.

[perelleth]

Don't know if you've seen meckinock's post about Tolkien. Some people there complain that Gandalf made things more difficult because he did not trust everybody as he should. (shakes head) Boy.When i first read LOTR it was Faramir who impressed me the most. Duty without hopes of reward beyond fulfilling own's duty. When I read the Silm, and then the rest of the books, and learnt what the Maiar were, I thought them the most admirable of characters... and the most difficult of lots.

and what goes before precipitates what follows. Exactly. Perfectly put.