*doomy bass voice* IT BEGINS...

Oct 11, 2005 23:21

What is a podcast and how does it work? =_=

The ordeal begins... )

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nekonexus October 11 2005, 16:46:43 UTC
This whole thing seems to be handed to us by the Internet version of oral tradition...

Indeed. ~_~ The folks over at Aestheticism might have something to say about it, though.

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pere_chan October 12 2005, 03:18:14 UTC
Oh, thank you!!! I ♥ you muchly.

Thanks for the Meine Liebe link too! *smooch*

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petronia October 12 2005, 08:05:03 UTC
Are you on the AMLA mailing list? There's tons of helpful information in the Yahoo!Group archive, although it's a bit dead now.

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Some historical thoughts petronia October 12 2005, 08:37:15 UTC
1) "Shounen-ai" refers to a subgenre of 70s shoujo. The antecedent is not samurai nanshoku as people tend to assume but British Aestheticism, from Oscar Wilde down to Rupert Everett boarding-school movies. The fact that - taking another step backward - you can trace a strong current of Japanese influence in Aestheticism/Symbolism/late 19th-century art in general is a study I don't think anyone's done from this particular perspective. (Examples of defining works: Heart of Thomas, Song of Wind and Trees)

2) This was followed by "June" in the 80s IIRC, which was primarily a literary movement centred around the magazine of the same name, and even more self-consciously 'aestheticized' - the Japanese word is tanbi - than shounen-ai, focussing on decadent themes and precious language. (Example of defining work: Ai no Kusabi ( ... )

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inner_v0ice October 12 2005, 05:06:12 UTC
Woww, your topics all look so COOOOL!!! ^_^ <3
...of course, I'm doing my IB Extended Essay on Good Omens, so it's not like I have TOO much room to be jealous. XD

If by any chance you need historical info for the yaoi thing, there's always Androphile.org, with its stuff:
Page on the historical Japanese tradition of male love
Gallery of Japanese art depicting male love (presumably the ancestor of yaoi...^_~)

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pere_chan October 12 2005, 10:50:20 UTC
Thanks dear! I do have some of the books cited by the article.

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inner_v0ice October 12 2005, 11:17:19 UTC
Ah, okay! ^_^

Actually it seems that according to petronia above, the links were basically useless because they're not the ancestors of yaoi anyway. Whoops. -_-;

To continue in my (probably misguided) attempts to be helpful...
According to petronia shounen-ai originated in the 70's, right? Well, have you heard of From Eroica With Love? (Yes, I am sort of pimping one of my fandoms, but I swear it might have some relevance! ...maybe...^_^;) It's a shounen-ai-ish manga series whose first issue was published in 1976, and which was first released in English a year ago. Especially in the first issue, it seems to be playing with/parodying the shounen-ai genre.

...okay, I'm pretty sure that I'm starting to become quite annoying, so I'm going to shut up now. Sorry. -_-;

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pere_chan October 13 2005, 03:01:53 UTC
Haha, annoying. Of course not! God knows I'm going to need so much help in the course of this thing.

I LOVE Eroica, and am collecting it. One unfortunate side effect is that I can't watch Led Zeppelin videos without seeing Dorian Red Gloria as the frontman...XD

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