when the ship goggles come off

Mar 04, 2012 18:10

My X-Files rewatch continues apace (actually at rather a faster pace than it probably ought, but this is not a post about the fact that I'm feeling a bit low and am compensating with too much television), and I've found season 4 and the beginning of season 5 to be so interesting in a number of senses that the rewatch of the first couple of seasons ( Read more... )

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pellucid March 7 2012, 02:23:46 UTC
Probably fortunately, I encountered B5 when I was old enough not to imprint so strongly on John and Delenn, because I suspect they might not hold up so well. But maybe I only say that because they never did much for me in the first place. But that's a show with so much to love that I don't think it would matter if they didn't hold up for your adult self.

And yes, I do remember liking that one! I don't remember the title, and I haven't come to it yet in the rewatch, but I remember it being scary. I've been generally less pleased with the Scully's faith element in my rewatch because it just seems so inconsistently done. Not in the sense that Scully's faith doesn't always seem inconsistent with her character generally, but in a way I find super fascinating and potentially quite realistic, but in the sense that I don't think that experience of the lingering influence of a conventional religious faith is something any of the writers were drawing from with any kind of firsthand knowledge, so while the idea of Scully's faith rings true, it ( ... )

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asta77 March 6 2012, 04:38:02 UTC
I have very mixed feelings bout "Post-Modern Prometheus" as well. The first time I watched it the rape aspect didn't really hit me. I think I was too focused on what Carter was trying to do stylistically and as a homage (and feeling he wasn't as successful as he thought he was) as well as the Mulder/Scully moments. But on subsequent viewings, the rape aspect, and the seeming obliviousness to it (both in front of and behind the camera), is disturbing. On the other hand, there are some very funny Mulder/Scully moments and seeing characters I love dancing together is a kink of mine, so I absolutely adore the final moments.

And I will still always associate Cher singing "Walking in Memphis" with this show, and I think always in a good way.

Heh. Me too. :)

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pellucid March 7 2012, 02:29:57 UTC
I regret to say that the first half a dozen times (probably) that I watched it the rape aspect didn't hit me. And in the meantime I really came to love the episode--and I did and still do think that Carter's homage was pretty well-done, but I always like that self-aware, fourth-wall-breaking stuff--which just made it harder when it finally, belatedly, occurred to me what was really going on in that ep. But yes, the parts of it that are good are still really good, and that whole closing sequence with Cher and the dancing is always going to be on of my favorite things.

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beccatoria March 6 2012, 19:26:19 UTC
Awww, man I wish I had interesting things to say here because the X-Files was my first fannish experience, watched haphazardly in my youth, like you, shipping before I knew what it was, like you. It was also the first show that ever left me utterly disillusioned.

I can't decide if I'm jealous I don't have the heart to rewatch it or relieved, but...I don't think I have the energy. The good bits would be too bittersweet; the bad bits too painful.

And I'd probably spend the entire time wanting to scream at Scully to RUN AWAY. RUN FAR, FAR AWAY. I wish I could tell her her quest would be worth it, but...even though I'm usually always in favour of knowing the truth, and having the adventure, and taking the chance, I honestly don't think it was worth it, for Scully, by the end. <\/3

And I will still always associate Cher singing "Walking in Memphis" with this show, and I think always in a good way.

This, however, is something I agree with completely. To this day it's one of my favourite songs.

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pellucid March 7 2012, 02:37:03 UTC
Fortunately, I guess, I was a lot better at enjoying the good stuff and ignoring the rest back then, so while I was certainly deeply disappointed by how it all turned out, I wasn't really disillusioned. I haaaaaaaated the whole baby plot, but I liked Doggett and Reyes. I hated how things turned out for Scully and thought it was dumb that the mytharc turned out to be so pointless, but I was still SUCH a shipper that I couldn't at that point wish Scully would just run away, and that helped me not be so disillusioned, I think--which in turn, going in with managed expectations, has helped me enjoy the rewatch, even knowing what's coming. Though I do think I'm probably going to stop with season 7, possibly just before the moment when Scully tells Skinner she's pregnant. Because I did like Doggett and Reyes, but not enough to rewatch seasons 8 and 9!

And yeah, I've definitely got "Walking in Memphis" on a couple of happy songs playlists!

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