oh, you have got to be kidding me!

Mar 25, 2008 18:32

Dear Hillary Clinton,

You have just ensured that any vote I might ever be inclined to give you will be EXTREMELY grudging.

No more love at all,
Me

(And just so we're all on the same page, this is what she's calling hate speech. All to deflect attention from her own lie. She wasn't going to be my first choice candidate, but I had been happy ( Read more... )

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gabolange March 25 2008, 22:56:30 UTC
I finally got to watch the Wright. And it's a lot of things, but hate speech is not one of them.

Actually, earlier today I was thinking that if Hillary ends up being the nominee, I might just vote for . . . somebody else? Because her politics, her tactics, her hatemongering, and her hypocrisy have just been driving me batty.

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pellucid March 25 2008, 23:27:09 UTC
Actually, earlier today I was thinking that if Hillary ends up being the nominee, I might just vote for . . . somebody else?

I am finding the prospect of voting for her so entirely disheartening--yet I'm not sure she's not still the lesser of evils. And the idea that I might consider voting for an white Republican man over a Democratic woman is absurd. Maybe I'll vote for some third-party candidate. It's not like my vote will matter anyway.

The whole thing just makes me so upset. I hate that the first viable female candidate we've ever had is someone I can't support. I hate that this race, about which I was so hopeful so recently, has turned into such a depressing, mudslinging mess about some of the issues I care most about. I've wanted Obama to get the nomination all along, but now I'm going to be really angry and depressed if he doesn't.

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gabolange March 26 2008, 00:44:44 UTC
There are certain things about the Republican nominee I find adequate, certain things I find tolerable, a couple things I find reprehensible, and just a few things I really quite like. I just have to decide how to weigh those things . . . and right now, that's about how I feel about Hillary--except unlike Mr. McCain, she just keeps disappointing me.

And the fact that I feel that way about someone who I should, by all rights, have every reason to support really ticks me off. I hope Obama wins the nomination so I don't have to deal with this choice.

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pellucid March 26 2008, 02:54:08 UTC
I think if it comes down to Hillary v. McCain, I don't know what I'll do. Not vote? Vote for the Green Party or the Communist Party candidate? Go with Hillary on the strength of her healthcare plan (which I do actually like a lot) and try to forget that she's otherwise being quite reprehensible? *sigh*

And the fact that I feel that way about someone who I should, by all rights, have every reason to support really ticks me off.

That's the thing. I'm used to being unenthusiastic about candidates, but I did not expect to have to feel this unenthusiastic about this candidate.

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beanpot March 26 2008, 00:23:56 UTC
I really want to give her the benefit of the doubt, I do. But I find it hard to understand why she didn't raise the issue last week when it was "the" issue, and not when "the" issue is her story of diving for cover from sniper fire.

And while I don't really have any issue with her exaggeration because I find it funny, how it's been handling is making me shake my head.

Now I need to find the article I read where a superdelegate says that if they are tied at the convention, the only right thing to do is to choose to another candidate. Like Al Gore.

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pellucid March 26 2008, 03:00:53 UTC
Well, some people have been suggesting that this is why she kept her mouth shut before, but it doesn't really explain why she's opening it now. Except that she's flailing in general and striking out at whatever she can.

I do have a huge issue with her exaggeration. If I believed that people would actually recognize it for the absurdity that it is, I might be able to roll my eyes at that absurdity, but so many people will and do agree with her--don't see the vast chasms that separate Don Imus's speech from Jeremiah Wright's--and that is simply reprehensible. And even if it were a brilliant and understandable political move, she'd lose my vote with that remark, period.

And I love Al Gore and all, but I want Obama to win.

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pellucid March 26 2008, 03:04:23 UTC
Rev. Wright? Yes, I completely agree with him, unsurprisingly. Moreover, I can't fathom how even anyone who disagrees with him could honestly call that "hate speech." It's nasty, reprehensible politicking, the way his words are being twisted out of context. Makes me sick.

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sugargroupie March 26 2008, 01:33:03 UTC
After everything that's happened with her campaign, I'm not surprised that she's blatantly comparing Don Imus and Jeremiah Wright. She's desperate and deflecting. But if it needs to be said, she lost my vote a long time ago.

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pellucid March 26 2008, 03:11:06 UTC
She was always my second-choice (and further down than that when there were more than two choices), but for a while I still felt like I could get behind her if she won the nomination. No, she wasn't going to get me excited, but I did (and do) like her health care plan well enough, and at least she'd be better than McCain, so I thought.

But these past few weeks have eroded away any support I had, and this was sort of the straw, meet camel's back moment. I'm still not sure I could bring myself to vote for McCain (not that it will really matter who I vote for, in my state), but if it's between the two of them I don't know what I'll do. The lesser of two reprehensible people?

*crosses fingers for Obama*

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moonshayde March 26 2008, 02:58:37 UTC
I mostly stay quiet on the poltical front. I'm a registered Independent and frankly enjoy not being tied to either party. So technically, I don't belong to either side.

This election cycle has been interesting. I was really enjoying the enthusiasm earlier, but the mudsligging on the Dems side lately has just been too depressing.

But when you look at Obama and Clinton and how they have run their campaigns, I would argue that Clinton has been far more sneaky and deceptive in comparison. And I felt Obama's speech was sincere.

I don't like the Clinton tactics I have been seeing and I get nervous that we could have more legacies: Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush, and then Clinton again.

It makes me sad that our first real female candidate is someone that I cannot support. But for me, I go with candidates (whatever the party) who I feel is a best fit for the country at the time. For me, now, Hilliary Clinton is not that person and her actions go a long way to prove it.

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pellucid March 26 2008, 03:14:46 UTC
I definitely feel like Clinton's campaign has been far more underhanded. Not that I think the Obama campaign has been squeaky clean, but I think he's honest, sincere, and actually believes in something. Sometimes I'm not sure whether Clinton believes in anything other than her own desire to be president.

I'm terribly disappointed that the first viable female candidate is someone I can't get behind. She was never my first choice, but for a while I had at least felt like I could support her if she were to win the nomination; increasingly I feel like that just isn't possible.

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