Concepts of Beauty

[peacetraveler22]

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[onkel_hans]

You look just great.
My daughter simply will never go to such a contest. It is called general upbringing ;)

Yet, once I entered the bathroom when she was on the john and saw a tattoo on her butt!

[peacetraveler22]

Well, I have two tattoos. :) These contests are part of many young girls "general upbringing" and culture, especially in the South.

I understand.

[onkel_hans]

Tell me, what about these tattoos, one can see in arms, legs, chests (sic) of girls? Are real or temporary dyes?

And how about this girly song? ;)

Re: I understand.

[peacetraveler22]

I have a small peace sign on my shoulder and a yin/yang with a sun in the middle on my lower back ("tramp stamp"). Video is amusing. This is the best invention for women! I don't know why Russian girls are so uptight about using them. They would smile more often. :))

[girlspell]

If you are pretty without any makeup....that is certainly a plus. I remember a law suit brought about by a women who refused to wear makeup to work. Nothing. She didn't need it. She was simply very pretty. But she got fired by the company. I can't remember if she won or not.

Beauty may be subjective, but there are universal concepts of beauty, not matter the race, ethnicity, etc. An oval face. Large eyes. Basically a face that is symmetrical. Facial features the same size except for the eyes. This is built in human breeding. All babies are born with large eyes. It triggers a protective urge (since humans are naked and defenseless at birth). Long after the person grows up (and his eyes become smaller) it lingers in concepts of beauty.

[peacetraveler22]

I don't see how a company can legally force a woman to wear make-up. I'm not against wearing it, as long as it's not extreme. Even I wear basic foundation, powder and sometimes lipstick to work or for social events. Btw, speaking of universal beauty concepts, have you seen or read about this experiment? It's quite interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT9FmDBrewA

[girlspell]

Interesting the girl they picked has an oval face to begin with

[peacetraveler22]

"Feminist Law Professors" - sounds scary! :)) You are right. Private companies can do whatever they wish, but it would never work in a Federal or State government job. I had no idea there were lawsuits over wearing make-up!! Interesting to read, thanks.

[grand_damme]

[peacetraveler22]

In the U.S., this song was adopted as an anthem for the LGBT community. Christina Aguilera was completely harassed by the press when she gained weight after her pregnancy. What an amazing voice. I love her vocals, and this is my favorite of all her songs.

[grand_damme]

yes, аfter Whitney Houston it one of the most amazing voices of today world

[sineglazzka2301]

The girl looks more like a porcellaine doll than a human being. I'd never wish my girls looked like this. My younger daughter likes to make up (and sometimes steals mine) but I allow make-up only for concerts, and moderately. The elder is indifferent to all kinds of glamour and always makes fun of her schoolmates who aren't.
I think some make up is useful for a woman, but not too much.

[peacetraveler22]

It's natural for most girls to play dress and put on lipstick, etc. I think it's okay, as long as it's in moderation. I never really did this as a child, but I'm strange. :) What kind of music does your younger daughter listen to? Does she drag you to concerts with her?

[sineglazzka2301]

Oh, no, it's not about going out, it's about her on the stage:))) She's eight, and she dances in a children's folk dance group. They wear stage costumes (mostly national, Russian or other) and are encouraged to wear some make-up. I always suspect that dressing up and making up is at least half the reason she dances there at all:)))
When they go out for kid parties, movies or theatre plays, I don't allow anything more than some translusent lip gloss. In winter it's a must, anyway.

[peacetraveler22]

Cool! I love these folk dance ensembles. I've watched some perform in the U.S. Some make-up for stage or photographic productions is understandable. Otherwise, people are completely washed out and almost invisible to the audience. Main thing is that they don't become porcelain dolls as you said. :)

[alamem]

I live in Canada, they tried to run this show in one of Montreal suburbs but it sparked a lot of public outrage, so finally it was cancelled. there's hope for humanity.

In Quebec, more than 43,000 people have signed a petition stating these contests “merely reinforce the broader obsession with body image… Conditioned too early to please, young girls see their parents over-emphasize their appearance.”

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/editorials/why-quebec-is-right-not-to-try-to-ban-child-beauty-pageants/article14584602/

[peacetraveler22]

Interesting, I can't imagine these pageants will ever be banned in America. They are too popular and woven into the culture in certain parts of the country. I don't even know if Russia has them, but I assume so.

[alamem]

don't know about Russia, at least did not hear abnything about it, would be sad.

[sineglazzka2301]

Yes there are, and there are some opposers to them, too. I think beauty contests are as old as human race (in this or that form), but only for the women of fertile age:))) For children, it's unnatural.