Mount of Olives is the last place I wish to be buried (c)
Me too ))) I wish cremation and after drop my ashes to the sea , but it not so easy to do in Israel due fucking religion !!!! There is some company that organize it but you have to underwrite contract in advance .
In which sea do you want your ashes dropped? A few of my deceased relatives were cremated, but I don't think it's for me. After all, I hate the heat. :)
In Mediterranean sea, it's close to my home, about 10 min walking ))))) Shannon, we have not so many space in Earth for corpses !!!! ))) You do not care about next generation ? )))
What will happen is very simple. Look at this analogy - For thousand years people thought that the world consists of the four elements: earth, water, air, and fire. Fire was the most impressive. Beautiful. Dangerous. Creative. Destructive. Changeable ...
Then appeared science. Physics and Chemistry. And it turned out that Fire does not exist. It is merely an illusion.
The same is with the most important part of human life - soul. It is like fire. Beautiful. Dangerous. Creative. Destructive. Changeable ... And it is also an illusion. Wind of air blows, and there is no fire. Wind of time blows and extinguishes the fire of soul. When there is no soul, the body turns to earth.
To think about the crowds of bodies arisen when Messiah comes is anthropocentrism. It is to think that the humans are the most essential, central object in the Universe. That the creator of the world, God, looks like a human and is merely a superhuman.
You created this analogy yourself, or it's drawn from one of the books you read? If the former, it's quite impressive and I agree. Sometimes your comments are too deep for me, especially when I read them first thing in the morning and I'm barely awake. :) Moreover, there are times I need to turn to a dictionary to understand the full meaning of your statements. Like today- "anthropocentrism" - I've never heard of this word. So, thanks for teaching me something new! :)
Many good memories and experiences already made in my life. Even if I die today, I can say I lived a full life, surrounded by a lot of love and adventure. There's some comfort in that. :)
Olga, I like this quote from Mark Twain, which I believe describes both of us :
"The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time."
For me, it's important to live your life and pursue your dreams to the fullest extent possible, while you're healthy and capable. Too many people believe they will live out their passions, take their dream vacations, etc., in retirement or old age, yet this day may never come. Or, your health may change such that you become immobile. As one of my friends recently said to me - "Shannon, you live in the NOW." It's true to a great extent. Yet I still live responsibly and save money for retirement and the future, hoping this day will come!
As I am not religious, I do not believe in life after death. Moreover, I do not understand all that fuss about cemeteries (I really cannot understand excursions to cemeteries in historic cities like Paris, for example). If I wished to honor a great man, I'd rather read his book or see his painting, than visit his tomb. When I die, the least thing I care about is how I should be buried and my tomb tended. I'd prefer cremation and no tomb. As for religious believings, I think the closest to what I can accept is reincarnation of soul. However, there is one drawback in this theory, which my man pointed to me: if the population of Earth increases dramatically, where do those additional souls come from? I suggested that if every live being has a soul, then new humans might appear instead of animals (whose number steadily decreases).
What about deceased relatives? Will you visit their gravestones in cemeteries? I remember when I visited my friend in Ukraine we went to his mother's grave and I was shocked at how poorly the cemetery was maintained. People's gravestones were completely covered in overgrown grass, dirt, etc., such that you could not even see their names on the stone. He explained that it's up to the family to maintain the site, and him and his father kept her gravestone clean and clear. This is very different from America, where the grounds are maintained by the cemetery owners. I've never visited a cemetery in Russia, so I don't know how it works there. About reincarnation, I'm not sure....it's an interesting concept and hard to envision in what form I would return. Animal, a man, a flower...I don't even know what I would pick if I had the choice. Too complicated! :)
Luckily I haven't got too many deceased relatives, most of them are alive and fine:) But, actually, no - I never visited the graves of my great-grandmother who died when I was five, and my grandfather, who died several years ago and whom I loved very much. I even don't know exactly in which cemetery they are buried. It's some quirk in my brain, but I can't make myself go there. Even if I have to in the future, I'll try to avoid it as much as I can. This doesn't mean I didn't love them. For me, it's the things that belonged to my relatives, or were made by their hands, or their photos, that make me remember them and make me emotional, and not the graves.
I understand your position. I've had two close relatives pass away in the last two years. One of them was sick for a while and it was expected; however, you can never fully prepare yourself for the loss. She was my mom's oldest sister and the first sibling to die. I still visit her grave sometimes, but remember her most fondly when I look at pictures of us together. Just this weekend my mom was at my apartment, standing at the kitchen sink and suddenly started crying. I didn't know what was wrong, but then realized she was looking at a picture of me and her sister on my table. These things mean a lot.
"Will there be a second coming and what happens after death?" Very interesting question ... A few intimate...;) When I was younger, second and sometimes third coming was commonplace for me. Over the years, i have been practicing the second coming less and less ... I think it is not far when i reject the second coming completely:(
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Me too ))) I wish cremation and after drop my ashes to the sea , but it not so easy to do in Israel due fucking religion !!!! There is some company that organize it but you have to underwrite contract in advance .
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Look at this analogy -
For thousand years people thought that the world consists of the four elements:
earth, water, air, and fire.
Fire was the most impressive. Beautiful. Dangerous. Creative. Destructive. Changeable ...
Then appeared science. Physics and Chemistry.
And it turned out that Fire does not exist. It is merely an illusion.
The same is with the most important part of human life - soul. It is like fire.
Beautiful. Dangerous. Creative. Destructive. Changeable ...
And it is also an illusion. Wind of air blows, and there is no fire. Wind of time blows and extinguishes the fire of soul.
When there is no soul, the body turns to earth.
To think about the crowds of bodies arisen when Messiah comes is anthropocentrism. It is to think that the humans are the most essential, central object in the Universe. That the creator of the world, God, looks like a human and is merely a superhuman.
This is actually the sin of pride.
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"The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time."
For me, it's important to live your life and pursue your dreams to the fullest extent possible, while you're healthy and capable. Too many people believe they will live out their passions, take their dream vacations, etc., in retirement or old age, yet this day may never come. Or, your health may change such that you become immobile. As one of my friends recently said to me - "Shannon, you live in the NOW." It's true to a great extent. Yet I still live responsibly and save money for retirement and the future, hoping this day will come!
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As for religious believings, I think the closest to what I can accept is reincarnation of soul. However, there is one drawback in this theory, which my man pointed to me: if the population of Earth increases dramatically, where do those additional souls come from? I suggested that if every live being has a soul, then new humans might appear instead of animals (whose number steadily decreases).
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Very interesting question ... A few intimate...;) When I was younger, second and sometimes third coming was commonplace for me. Over the years, i have been practicing the second coming less and less ... I think it is not far when i reject the second coming completely:(
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