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a_nimaida October 2 2014, 17:03:53 UTC
Now I will read)
very large topic

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peacetraveler22 October 2 2014, 17:08:36 UTC
Very complicated topic! :)

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a_nimaida October 2 2014, 18:17:45 UTC
no
not complicated.
Become a pacifist.

One fact is true for the people - it is written in the Bible - "Thou shalt not kill" ... no one should be killed ... not the Arabs, not the Americans, not Russian, not Chinese. Condemn anyone who calls to kill, even if it's your president.
After all, you do not want to make people kill each other?
On this beautiful planet, you can live in peace!

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peacetraveler22 October 2 2014, 20:14:38 UTC
Well, I like to live in fairy tale land like you sometimes. However, peace will never exist in all corners of the beautiful planet. I too am a pacifist. But how should I, or any nation, respond when someones puts a gun to the face, a missile is launched, or some other deadly weapon is used against them? This is the justification for the Separation Wall, and I understand the foundation for its existence. Peace has no place in the daily struggle to simply remain alive in some corners of the planet, at least not when there are so many maniacs running around the globe.

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pin_gwin October 2 2014, 17:59:26 UTC
Did you feel it safe to be there?

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peacetraveler22 October 2 2014, 18:07:33 UTC
Yes, most of the time. I walked in the neighborhood with other Americans late at night, and by myself during the day. I didn't feel threatened, or hear any anti-American sentiments. However, I was there during a relatively peaceful time. Perhaps things would be more contentious during war/bombing times. The recent conflict started only a few days after we left. It's the same as anywhere, you just have to be aware of your surroundings and not behave as a fool or disrespect the locals. This avoids a lot of problems. :)

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maadmike October 5 2014, 18:39:15 UTC
Yes! (
Now it is so easy to be caught be the Muslims terrorist. So many peaceful citizen of EU and USA was terminated... ((

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notabler October 2 2014, 18:13:51 UTC
I feel more in favor of jews, because they are such a small but heroic nation. And the second reason - they never called to kill every arab in the coutry, as Palestinian did ir still do. I appreciate, that the life of palesrinians isn't easy, but even on your picture and can't see any skinny and fragile person, all of them look perfectly ok for me, no famine there, Israil provides a lot of goods and other supply for them. Freedom of movement is important, of course, but why other arabs brother won't let them move on their territory, Egypt or Iordan? They have long borders with them? So this topic is extremely difficult for me as well. I've never seen the jewish mother wrapping her child 4 years old in shachid belt and never will see, but arabs do it. That is No1 reason for me to prefer Israil side

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peacetraveler22 October 2 2014, 20:09:44 UTC
I don't take sides in the battle. I only stated that I'm sympathetic to the people in the West Bank because you can't really understand the disparity in how they live until you see it with your own eyes. There's no famine there, but many are living in dirt, while shiny new Jewish settlements are being built on what they perceive to be their land. At the same time, I understand Israel's defensive position and measures to protect its citizens. Have you been to Israel? I think it's definitely worth a visit, though I have no connection to this land. I'm neither Jewish, nor religious. I think this helps to see things more objectively.

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notabler October 2 2014, 21:16:45 UTC
I appreciate your point. You are certainly right, I need to visit the place in order to understand it better. I was wrong. I'd be happy to go there sometimes,

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peacetraveler22 October 2 2014, 21:18:57 UTC
I don't think you're wrong. :) You are entitled to your opinion. I just meant my views about Israel and Palestine changed after I visited the region. This is the beauty of travel. There's always some sort of discovery involved. Thanks, as always, for your thoughts! Btw, are you fully recovered from your surgery now?

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psychbarboc October 2 2014, 19:08:02 UTC

kreyzi October 2 2014, 20:41:30 UTC
ты как всегда охуенная )

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peacetraveler22 October 2 2014, 21:23:52 UTC
Hmm...I'm not sure if you're insulting or complimenting me? :) Google doesn't translate your text properly. Based on my understanding of Russian, I think you're saying I'm fucking great, as always. So, Большое спасибо! :))

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ski_traveller October 3 2014, 01:54:59 UTC
Yes, you've understood it exactly right.
But decent people don't say in such manner.

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peacetraveler22 October 3 2014, 02:03:08 UTC
Thank you. Google never translates curse words properly. :)

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