Duncan and his friends have a question....

Jan 10, 2007 19:33

If we're having trouble raising enough troops to do normal troop rotations, will they start drafting again to make up these new troops?

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Sorry to be cynical but ... starshineway January 11 2007, 03:42:09 UTC
Probably not until a new President has been elected - so elect one who wants to get out of Iraq sooner rather than later.

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Re: Sorry to be cynical but ... roshismomma January 11 2007, 03:45:46 UTC
we tried, they stole the election. again.

(duncan and his friends have a really good point)

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Re: Sorry to be cynical but ... starshineway January 11 2007, 03:49:30 UTC
Yep!

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Re: Sorry to be cynical but ... java_fiend January 11 2007, 03:56:42 UTC
Possibly... but this Administration routinely floats stories in the press as a trial balloon to see how the public will react. Read this story from a couple of weeks ago and tell me it doesn't sound ominous...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2744716

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java_fiend January 11 2007, 03:55:30 UTC
I wouldn't put it past them. They want to drop in 20,000 more troops to begin with, but you watch, they'll start calling for more when this escalation fails to achieve the results they want. The military doesn't have the troop strength to sustain these levels of escalation. They've tried everything, huge signing bonuses, raising the age of enlistees to 45 I think it is now, admitting the mentally unstable... etc. and nothing is working. If they want to escalate, they're going to need to get fresh bodies from somewhere... the draft is a possibility.

And follow the link to this very ominous story from a few weeks ago... it sounds like a trial balloon they put out in the press to gauge public reaction if you ask me...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2744716

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patsmor January 11 2007, 05:14:24 UTC
Indeed it does sound like a trial balloon. Duncan and I were talking the other day about whether we needed to ship him off to England to visit his relatives there for an "extended educational trip."

Sigh.

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starshineway January 11 2007, 15:44:37 UTC
I think we have some fine Universities in the UK.

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java_fiend January 11 2007, 20:46:34 UTC
It's sad that we'd even have to wonder that. But I'd definitely make sure his passport is in order. Seriously.

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noxcat January 11 2007, 03:59:28 UTC
A peacetime draft? God, I hope not!

Besdies, I doubt Dubya has the political power anymore to get it to happen.

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patsmor January 11 2007, 05:16:45 UTC
I think it depends on what he endangers that the Dems will have to trade for. What could he cut in the budget to pay the extra millions for more troops that would put the Dems in a bind? I honestly don't know, but my deeply paranoid self wonders if it won't happen.

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holyhippie January 11 2007, 05:01:43 UTC
Doesn't reinstating the draft require an act of Congress? That seems to be the answer I can come up with from my quick research, is that the executive doesn't seem to necessarily have the power to do that on his own.

In other words, there seems to be a showdown coming between the executive and legislative branches of our governments. The executive seems about to commit military resources that may require a draft, which the legislature has to approve. Even committing the military resources will require funding, which the legislature is supposed to approve. Given that approval for war funding and the draft doesn't seem likely ... who will win?

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patsmor January 11 2007, 05:17:53 UTC
As I said above, I think you're absolutely right about a huge fight coming up.

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cvirtue January 11 2007, 11:24:22 UTC
We're way past the point of possibility -- did you see the reports two weeks ago about the real deficit? It's ballooned due to the war to an insane, and concealed, amount.

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patsmor January 11 2007, 17:20:37 UTC
The negative externality of this war is beyond comprehension, as you say. I wonder what we'll go through to recover.

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