SPN meta: Red Tape and Demon Blood

Feb 15, 2009 21:41

So here's a lil something that's had me puzzled since 4.03. Exactly what rules must demons abide by? Clearly there are some; crossroads demons are bound to honor their contracts, and Azazel whines about red tape in 2.01. So how have these rules affected the Winchesters' relationships with demons - particularly Sam's ( Read more... )

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vorrothiel February 16 2009, 22:33:55 UTC
I need to swing by your house for a little something
The thing with Azazel having to get permission - pretty sure he could've entered the house anytime he wanted, but he needed permission to do that "little something," which was giving Sam demonic blood ( ... )

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patita_fea February 17 2009, 15:41:45 UTC
Hey, there!

The thing with Azazel having to get permission - pretty sure he could've entered the house anytime he wanted, but he needed permission to do that "little something," which was giving Sam demonic blood.

That sounds about right to me. I'm just wondering why he would need permission to do anything to Sammy, when other demons completely ruin random civilians' lives without permission all the time.

I don't know what the significance of having the infant be 6 months for this ritual.

Huh. I hadn't actually thought about how the 6 month timetable figured into this. Think maybe I'm going to go see if I can find something significant about that age...

Thank you very much for reading!

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datenshiblue February 17 2009, 13:45:33 UTC
Interesting suggestion, and yes it fits rather nicely. I have to ask if you have seen a recent spoiler (without saying what it was) that I stumbled on yesterday and if it influenced your ideas here?

None of your commenters has yet pointed out that if Cold Oak was confirmation, Sam refused...

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patita_fea February 17 2009, 15:51:17 UTC
I'm aware of some casting spoilers for the next couple eps, but none of them seem really related. *hopeful* Does this mean I'm on the right track?

if Cold Oak was confirmation, Sam refused
*fistbump Sammy*

'Course, now that I'm thinking in these terms - I wonder if Ruby's "spiritual sponsorship" after Dean's death was the lead-in to another invitation.

Thanks for reading and sharing the thinky. :)

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datenshiblue February 17 2009, 17:42:27 UTC
I can't confirm or deny if you are on the right track without spoiling you with a rotten spoily spoiler, since it seems you haven't seen it yet. I don't know what your level of spoilerphobia is so I'll stop there. ^_^;;;

*joins in fistbumping for Sammy!* cause. Yeah. Sammy!

Unfortunately I think Dean's death and trip to hell was the straw that broke poor Sam. I think Castiel bringing Dean back was both (of course!) a relief, a wonder, and also in a way kind of adding insult to injury because Sam wasn't able to do it. He said as much, "I wish I *had* been the one who got you back" (bad paraphrase). But he couldn't, no matter what he tried.

Now I think he wants to save Dean from any threat of a return, end the war, and give them a chance at normal life, instead of the "ends sad or bloddy" finish Dean expects. This is the wedge Ruby is using to get him further down the path.

Which everyone pretty much gets by now. So I hush up. ^^

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patita_fea February 17 2009, 17:46:00 UTC
*flails* Argh, spoilers of doom! I'm not an omg!spoilerphobe, but I do want to be surprised by the big surprises. And I see you there laughing at my frustration. *peers* Yes, I see you.

;)

Now I think he wants to save Dean from any threat of a return, end the war, and give them a chance at normal life, instead of the "ends sad or bloddy" finish Dean expects.

What I really like about this season's conflict is that both Sam and Dean perceive themselves as trying to save the other. Their relationship is deteriorating because each justifies his actions as being "for" the other one.

Is awesomesauce.

*waltzes datenshiblue*

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