Comments | parsimonia: On Wonder Woman's costume (and yay! discussion!)

parsimonia

On Wonder Woman's costume (and yay! discussion!)

Apr 18, 2009 15:36

Yesterday after commenting on Noah's post about Wonder Woman, which included his reaction to bluefall's post about the Lasso of Truth, which was a response to a previous post of Noah's, I made a post here entitled "MADDY SMASH!" discussing the "Wonder Woman wears a bathing suit" issue. (I should mention that my reason for titling it "MADDY SMASH!" is ( Read more... )

women in comics, wonder woman, comics, dc comics

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nevermore999 April 18 2009, 21:46:03 UTC

I think there used to be WW bathing suits, in the seventies and eighties and stuff (I saw one somewhere) but mostly for little kids. With straps of course. But yeah. I would totally buy one if I saw it in my size.

parsimonia April 18 2009, 22:49:14 UTC

I just did a bit of searching, and yeah, nothing for adults. Oddly enough the first women's bathing suit I found was more akin to Starfire's costume. Not especially practical if you plan to do actual swimming.

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parsimonia April 18 2009, 22:56:26 UTC

Yeah well, you'll forgive me if I don't delete my "I'm always right" tags any time soon! *shakes fist*

Thing is, although I don't swim nearly enough now, I'm a strong swimmer, and despite usually choosing practicality over fashion, I've had a few, um, *mishaps* with swimsuits that did have straps, so it made me realize there would be no hope if wearing Wondy's. So really, "Wonder Woman is wearing a bathing suit" fails because you clearly cannot swim in that! So, you see, it's not even a bathing suit, so I'm still kind of right...sort of...maybe... XP

You know what occurred to me about PG's costume a little while ago? It's white. Who knows, maybe Kryptonian biology is different, but generally speaking most women would shy away from that colour when picking out a costume they wear daily. I guess that's why she also wears a big red cape! D:

The DCU clearly needs MOAR Cosmic Boy, but you're right, Clark should theoretically show off more. (Although to argue within-the-text logic again, his wholesome traditional American upbringing ( ... )

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.____________________. scottyquick April 19 2009, 00:37:35 UTC

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I thought you guys were talking about like, if she got punched really hard and got wounded and starting bleeding.

0______________________________0 at the Cass/Steph one.

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magus_69 April 19 2009, 23:20:55 UTC

(At the risk of rehashing some of what has already been said...)

For me, the big thing about superhero costumes is practicality. Some are more aesthetically pleasing than others, but I'm willing to overlook that if they are remotely practical. Women in high-heels, for example? Nuh-uh. When I was a kid, I once tried on a pair of my mom's high heels to figure out how she could walk in them. NEVER AGAIN. I fully admit that one experience doesn't qualify to comment on what it is like to wear them for an extended period of time, but I have had a taste of what that must be like.

(Which is one reason why Watchmen pissed me off. Nite-Owl 2 got Batman Begins armour, and Ozymandias got Batman Forever armour, and Silk Spectre 2 got... leather and high heels. Fuck me gently with a chain saw)

parsimonia April 20 2009, 02:46:37 UTC

Yes, the heels, my god. If every comic artist had the experience of just walking in heels, they'd quickly realize they are not conducive to fighting crime in, let alone running and jumping and whatnot.

Some women manage walking in them better than others (comes with practise, I assume), but I have a very low tolerance for them, personally. And that's mostly because I tend to walk at a fairly brisk pace, and that usually results in very sore feet afterwards if you're wearing heels.

cleome45 April 20 2009, 04:15:02 UTC

Am I the only person anywhere who wished that the Justice Lords'/alt-JLA Diana looked like that in the "regular" universe, too?

I mean, it's not as if everyone suddenly mistook her for a guy, just because she had a streamlined haircut and a suit that covered her legs.

(sigh)

princessebee April 20 2009, 06:35:10 UTC

I was enjoying this until I got to the comment that basically implied Selina having been a hooker is a knock on her character ( ... )

parsimonia April 20 2009, 15:20:08 UTC

I think it would be more inclusive to specify "some Muslim women" rather than "a Muslim woman" as many Muslim women elect not to wear the hijab or otherwise concealing clothing

You're are perfectly right. That statement was not meant to lump all Muslim women together as covering their hair, which is why I made it singular, but I can see how it's a little ambiguous put that way.

I can't fully guarantee that I'm interpreting what bluefall was saying correctly, but given that we've had previous discussions about Frank Miller, that remark is perhaps a bit without context here.

The point about Selina's origin being a prostitute is that so many of Frank Miller's female characters are prostitutes. And the sense behind that is that the only way he can relate to women as a writer is through sex, or that he cannot separate a woman from her as being a sexual object of some sort, that the women of his world exist solely to have sex with the men, so much so that most of them actually work as prostitutes. (This joke has been made frequently ( ... )

princessebee April 26 2009, 00:53:04 UTC

I see your point regards Miller and the problem with female characters in comics. Nonetheless, I think it's a danger when we start developing an us and them mentality - non-hookers and hookers ( ... )