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parma_violets

Within This Bastard's Carnival

Oct 15, 2006 10:38

Right, apparently I got it wrong. It is actually 1503 and we're not living in a modern multicultural secular society. In fact, we're all completely fucked.

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momentsmusicaux October 15 2006, 12:39:56 UTC

If you're looking to tar and feather Peter Vardy, count me in. I'll hold the bucket or something.

parma_violets October 15 2006, 19:18:59 UTC

Heh heh. I really do loathe the man and his Kill-Bot Factories For Yoof. I'll put up what my granddad said about him the other day soon...

cpt_buggernuts October 15 2006, 12:40:15 UTC

"Imagine what the bullying would be like in a school where a quarter of the school's pupils have already been marked out as enemies of what the school stands for before they even walk in the door, and where it's a matter of official school doctrine that a quarter of the student body would be subjected to - and deserve - an eternity of pain and torture following their death."It's worth pointing out that from ages four to seventeen I went to a Roman Catholic school which however had - for various practical reasons too complicated to go into - around a fifth to a quarter Muslim and Sikh students. We were known as being one of the more conservative Catholic schools and the Muslim and Sikh students were not just another Faith, but very visibly another faith ( ... )

parma_violets October 15 2006, 19:21:55 UTC

That's actually a good point. I suppose I'm basing my diagnosis on what I've seen of American religious schools, which are scary. But British kids are too anarchistic to follow in lock-step like that.

I didn't go to a faith school, though all of our senior staff were uncomfortably obsessed with religion and the anti-Communist cause. As per your diagnosis, we just thought it was funny.

whiggles October 16 2006, 19:05:13 UTC

I think you have a point - and it makes me wonder if bullying is more likely to come from the teachers rather than the students in these circumstances.

boji October 15 2006, 14:13:53 UTC

Have you read the article in the Guardian which explains how pro-gay legislation (like the legal right to adopt children) is being slowed/curtailed because of pressure that is coming from the faith community and faith schools. The scandal being that they don't want to have to accept openly gay pupils.

I'm angry about this. Really deeply angry. I loathe the fact that tptb are letting society be undermined by this religious bullshit. And I say that about all religion that cannot find a way to put the values of an open-minded secular society ahead of it's (the church or mosque's) doctrine.

boji October 15 2006, 14:22:05 UTC

I'll lay my cards on the table here - I hate the burkha.

Ditto. I'm also confused and perplexed as to why our liberal society has to be so all accepting ... to the detriment of what we stand for.

parma_violets October 15 2006, 19:24:13 UTC

It's extra-galling because it seems so obvious to me how it should work - once your freedom of expression and action is employed to restricting another person's freedom of expression and action, the victim's rights supersede yours. Obviously, as with any law, there will be grey areas, but it's as good a general law as any I can think of. So why does it seem to be so difficult for people to understand? If I read one more article about a BNP member or an American fundamentalist Christian claiming to be "oppressed" by people disagreeing with him, I'll be sick.