Quite Possibly, 15 of the best minutes you'll spend reading anything this month...

Dec 18, 2006 01:27



This one has been a long time coming - my favourite Pagan, blood-drenched, super-hero action Christmas story EVER!

And one that will never be reprinted by it's copywright holders again, as it's a match that's made in funnybook Heaven, and corporate marketing Hell.

"Longbox Playhouse Proudly Presents" Dept.:


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20 days of christmas, longbox playhouse proudly presents, spider-man was *always* coolest

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papajoemambo December 19 2006, 03:28:59 UTC


If it looks like a classic X-Men comic it's also because the full team from when that book was at it's height are on this one - Tom Orz and Glynis Wein were also the long-standing letter and colorist of the classic Byrne / Claremont / Austin team.

Second half is just as fun and should be posted in about a half-an-hour.

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thebitterguy December 18 2006, 12:16:28 UTC
teh awesome. That, and it puts the X-Men Conan stories in perspective!

Merry Christmas, Papajoe!

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papajoemambo December 19 2006, 03:31:59 UTC


Well, Claremont was the worst best for taking characters he'd created in other books and dropping them into whatever he was working on at the time.

This is why Power Man and Dracula villains showed up in X-Men comics - it gave the whole "New York Is One City Where People Meet Each Other" zeitgeist of the Marvel U a kind of unity, but I suspect it was mostly because Claremont always felt he never got to go as far as he wanted with those secondary villains and wouldn't let go of them - like a dog worrying a bone.

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mimisoliel December 18 2006, 13:45:54 UTC
A very fun series of posts!

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msmarvel1 December 18 2006, 14:44:00 UTC
Ha-ha! A big "Ooops! That's not current canon!" instance re: Mary Jane's thoughts, there.

Still, I'm excited to read the rest of this story ... this has been one of those things I've heard about but never actually seen myself. :-)

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papajoemambo December 19 2006, 03:37:33 UTC

Marvel doesn't own the rights to Red Sonja anymore and has always been unwilling to let other publishers use Spidey in cross-company cross-overs. This story will, as a result, never be reprinted as a comic again, period.

Did you catch Clark Kent's cameo? That's the first time Byrne and Claremont wrote him into anything - and the newspaper framed on teh wall is a part of the long-running "Jack Abel killed Howard Chaykin" in-joke between Terry Austin and teh rest of the Marvel editors.

I actually attribute most of what a lot of people like to lump under the "What's Gone Wrong With Spider-Man" umbrella as having begun when MJ admitted that she ALWAYS knew that Peter was Spidey. That was the beginning of the end, as far as I'm concerned. Up to that point, things made sense within themselves.

Goddamn this is a fun comic tho, eh?

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msmarvel1 December 19 2006, 03:59:21 UTC
Hee. Marvel Lost History!

I did recognize the Clark Kent cameo, yeah. Don't know about that in-joke though. Can you enlighten me?

I don't really have any strong opinion re: MJ knowing because that was before my time. Really my big issue with Spider-Man is ... well, I wish they hadn't killed everyone. And Ultimate isn't really helping because Bendis seems to not be able to stop killing people himself (and doing it in increasingly lamer ways).

And yeah, this comic is fun. It feels like what that whole MJ-and-Aunt-May-dressing-up-in-the-Iron-Man-suits from The Other should have felt like, if that makes any sense. It sort of takes its own sillyness for granted.

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munkykiss December 18 2006, 17:19:56 UTC
what do you think of Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane?

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papajoemambo December 19 2006, 03:40:32 UTC


I don't like her, to be honest. Dunst's Mary Jane is just Gwen Stacy with MJ's parents. They should have bleached her hair and had her play Gwen Stacy.

As messed up as her personal life is these days, by looks and acting range alone, Lindsay Lohan looks and "feels" like she was born to play Mary Jane Watson the way that Patrick Stewart looks and "feels" as if he was born to play Professor Xavier.

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msmarvel1 December 19 2006, 04:04:14 UTC
I don't know about Lindsay Lohan, but I agree about Dunst!MJ being Gwen with MJ's parents. Actually something that's really stuck in my craw is how all of the "alternate" Mary Janes (Ultimate, Spidey Loves, That Wretched Novel with the Anorexia) have taken on the Sweet & Smart stock personality. It's like the writers can't reconcile that a girl can be both goofy and smart.

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papajoemambo December 19 2006, 04:50:10 UTC
MJ is a SURVIVOR - she is not all as "heart of gold" as most people like to make her out to be now ( ... )

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