I watched three random episodes of Ugly Betty, as determined by whatever was playing and whatever Tivo caught. Um. Spoilers for... the two model sisters at a nightclub episode?
Yeah, I am not very disposed to like Daniel. I went back to read coffeeandink's summary, and I'm wondering if I just stumbled into episodes that don't talk about Daniel's privilege as much. Though in defense of the show, even in these three episodes, there has been mention of Daniel's privilege, particularly in comparison between him and Sofia, who had to work her ass off just to get where she was
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OMG completely agree with you on VMars. That was the one I was not-so-obliquely referring to ;). Just... *sputters* Yup, that's why I stopped watching it.
I think I will keep watching Ugly Betty, just to fill in gaps and see how it's going, because hey... women of color! As opposed to one woman of color!
Well, I think it can be farce and still have messages, though I don't actually think it (or Scrubs) are quite farce. They have their farcical moments, but they both do take time to develop characters, even though it's more slowly than in dramas.
I'm still wondering if it is age specific or not, largely because it plays uncomfortably into the "those third-wave post-feminist suck!" syndrome that I've seen floating around before. I've got a few forty-some coworkers who say the same thing, and all the guys I know basically do, with the exception of a few, and I think the older generation doesn't even bother rolling their eyes. They just think the feminists (broad catchphrase disclaimer here) are wrong wrong wrong.
*sigh*
Anyway... Ugly Betty! I do get the liking ^_^. Sometimes the frustration is made worse when I actually do like something and respect it, because then I can see how much more awesome it could be (*ahem*Heroes*ahem*). Whereas some things, I just give up on. But even though I rag on Heroes, I feel bad, because it's trying, you know? As opposed to, say, SPN or Buffy with race; I want to push Heroes to do better, but sometimes I forget to acknowledge that it (and Ugly Betty, from the little I've seen) is doing stuff with race and stereotypes, even if not always
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Hee, yes!
OMG completely agree with you on VMars. That was the one I was not-so-obliquely referring to ;). Just... *sputters* Yup, that's why I stopped watching it.
I think I will keep watching Ugly Betty, just to fill in gaps and see how it's going, because hey... women of color! As opposed to one woman of color!
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See also "why I can't watch Scrubs or My Name is Earl" ...
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*sigh*
Anyway... Ugly Betty! I do get the liking ^_^. Sometimes the frustration is made worse when I actually do like something and respect it, because then I can see how much more awesome it could be (*ahem*Heroes*ahem*). Whereas some things, I just give up on. But even though I rag on Heroes, I feel bad, because it's trying, you know? As opposed to, say, SPN or Buffy with race; I want to push Heroes to do better, but sometimes I forget to acknowledge that it (and Ugly Betty, from the little I've seen) is doing stuff with race and stereotypes, even if not always
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