Comments | oyceter: Soryo Fuyumi - Eternal Sabbath, vol. 03-04 (Eng. trans.)

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Soryo Fuyumi - Eternal Sabbath, vol. 03-04 (Eng. trans.)

Apr 05, 2007 14:24

Totally random note -- I can't seem to save and compile my custom layers; is anyone else having this problem? It's not my internet, because I've tested on a few computers, both on Firefox 2 and IE 6.

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manga, manga: seinen, sequential art, manga: eternal sabbath, a: soryo fuyumi

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justinelavaworm April 5 2007, 21:40:15 UTC

The jealous female friends thing normally bugs me a tonne, but I didn't have that reaction to ES at all. And I suspect it's because---as you say---everyone is so fucked up. It's one of the creepiest things I've read in ages. (Except for Anne Freaks.) Loved it!

Have you read Anne Freaks? What did you think?

oyceter April 5 2007, 21:46:09 UTC

Yeah, I couldn't decide if it bugged me because they were so fucked up anyway! And of course, it could have been slightly less psychotic jealousy, were Isaac not around to inflame everyone's fears.

Anne Freaks? What is that? Tell, tell!

rachelmanija April 5 2007, 22:18:40 UTC

I had the impression that there were undercurrents of tension in the relationship, but that Isaac could take anyone's tiniest negative impulses to make them crazy. Like the cop who killed the murderer, then committed suicide-- those feelings weren't created out of thin air, but without Isaac's interference, they would have been just normal emotional background noise.

justinelavaworm April 5 2007, 22:25:07 UTC

Zackly. That's what's so very very very very creepy about it. Any of us could be made into murderers.

Btw I can't tell you how much I'm enjoying being able to talk about manga with you two. You guys are always a million volumes ahead of me. Or talking about stuff I haven't heard of until you mention it. I'm almost one of the cool kids!

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fmanalyst April 5 2007, 22:26:55 UTC

Mine's friend's jealousy worked for me because of the stage of life they were at -- it wasn't just jealousy. I think people hit a point in their 30s when they start re-examining the choices they made and resenting the people in their lives who represent those choices. Mine's friend (I can't remember her name and I don't want to dig up the book) chose a relationship over her career, and then the relationship failed. Mine then seemed to her to represent what she could have had in her own life but didn't. I don't see that jealousy as "Mine has something I don't," but rather "Mine has something I could have had, but I made a different choice and look where it got me." I think that's common for people in that age group. If we're married, we look at our friends who stayed single, and think, "I could have had her career and been free of all these responsibilities." But if we're single, we look at our married friends and think, "Why do I have to be all by myself with just a job to show for my life ( ... )

oyceter April 5 2007, 22:30:23 UTC

Yeah, I mean, it does make sense for the context and etc., but on the other hand, it's yet another female friendship gone awry, thanks to jealousy. It's a hard line to draw sometimes. Also, I think it pinged me a little more because I've seen so few female friendships, much less healthy ones in manga (and in fiction in general, but that's a whole new kettle of fish).

It'd be interesting to see more female characters in ES who aren't Mine and Isaac's friend.

justinelavaworm April 5 2007, 22:33:18 UTC

What about YA? Don't you think that's chock full of female friendships?

oyceter April 5 2007, 22:39:44 UTC

Oof, yeah, good point. I do see a lot of female friendships in YA, and even more that have nothing to do with romance, thank goodness. And of course, my reading is sort of skewed, since I tend to pick up female authors more for some reason, so I think I am seeing more female friendships than most? Which is excellent and something I seek out ( ... )

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