Lest we forget...

Nov 11, 2005 15:21

Since this is going around:
Rudyard Kipling, from 'Epitaphs of the War':

COMMON FORM
If any question why we died,
Tell them, because our fathers lied.

A DEAD STATESMAN
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callunav November 11 2005, 15:38:34 UTC
Thank you.

Of all the posts written and quotes posted today because of what today is, this one may mean the most to me.

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oursin November 11 2005, 20:52:52 UTC
Thank you.
The first one strikes me as particularly painful in the light of Kipling's pulling strings, if not actually lying, in order to get his extremely myopic son a commission. His son did not survive.

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sam_t November 11 2005, 23:25:27 UTC
Ouch ouch ouch.

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headgardener November 12 2005, 09:46:58 UTC
Encompasses the contradictions in Kipling: the Dead Statesman and Hindu Sepoy could be quoted today by ardent left-wingers as anti-war taunts to Blair (or Bush): flawlessly right-on. But The Coward and Bombed In London are in his right-wing militaristic Flag-flapper mode...

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oursin November 12 2005, 16:04:05 UTC
I find The Coward strikes a note of compassion (though possibly I'm influenced by some sympathetic depictions of shellshock in the stories): but I wouldn't look to Kipling for the epitaph on 'CO dead after being beaten up by jingoistic thugs', it's true.

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oursin November 12 2005, 16:05:02 UTC
There is an amazing intro to the Penguin Classics edition of Kim by Edward Said, who was obviously immense fan in spite of everything.

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