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kojonoyuri December 9 2010, 00:13:00 UTC
I agree with like everything! Especially the Three Brothers story, so good! And Grindelwald telling Voldemort about the wand! WTF!!?? But I'm more pissed about Peter not dying! The rat killed my Sirius and deserves a painful violent death!!! Grrrr!!!

So excited for grindeldore its nice to no the (very hot) actors are on board. I can't wait for part 2!!

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otakuwench December 11 2010, 20:21:23 UTC
To be quite honest, I haven't read the 7th book since the summer it came out, so I couldn't recall when exactly Peter died - hence my not mentioning it. ^^;; But yes, agreed. (Although technically Bella killed Sirius :P)

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kamion December 11 2010, 20:38:30 UTC
Pettigrew died at Malfoy Manor when Harry calls in the debt he owned him for saving him from being killed by Lupin and Black in PoA.
Pettigrew is then strangled by the silver hand Voldemort gave him as replacement for the hand he sacrifised in the resurrection Spell.
Rather gruesome in the book, probably a bit too much for the movie.
but I bet Pettigrew meets his sticky end in part two somehow. Maybe Lupin will finish him off,. I would have peace with that liberty taken by the director.

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otakuwench December 11 2010, 21:30:53 UTC
Yeah, I remembered how he died, just not when exactly. I agree that it was probably a little gruesome for the movie, though.

I would also be okay with Lupin taking him out. *nodnod*

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kamion December 11 2010, 14:40:38 UTC
it's actual never stated that Grindelwald was a lover of Dumbledore ( ... )

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otakuwench December 11 2010, 20:19:55 UTC
I agree that it never specifically states that they were lovers, but I think it does add to the books at least between the lines, insomuch as it gives Dumbledore a more complicated backstory and motivations. Even if only Albus was attracted and Gellert was just using him/whatever, it's still sad that he had to reject and defeat someone he cared for (whether platonically or romantically), and I think that might be part of why Dumbledore is very closemouthed about his past and works this bumbling kindly wizard persona - it makes people think he doesn't have the kind of flaws that would lead a person to fall in love with a sociopath ( ... )

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kamion December 11 2010, 20:46:39 UTC
Must say I had a far less high opinion of Dumbledore the morning following reading part 7 and I wasn't the only one on that HP con in London.
Not so much for getting involved with a fellow that turned out as a Wizarding Hitler, but more for using Snape's remorse till he bled dry.

OT:
I always wondered what JKR had in the back of her head playing about any connection between Grindelwald and the Nazi-party.
Quite a few high up in the ranks of the SS were complete mystics that would eat of of Grindlewald's hand had he been real person.
Had the tradional generals from the Wehrmacht not prevented it, German science after 1933 would have looked pretty much like a Hogwarts curriculum.

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otakuwench December 11 2010, 21:26:30 UTC
Yeah, that's the same reason my opinion of him changed - I always knew he was manipulative but he was really an asshole to Snape above and beyond that. :/

I've always wondered about that too - the chocolate frog card says that Dumbledore defeated Grindelwald in 1945, which ties up with the ned of WWII pretty neatly.

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