I guess part of the reason that I'm not up on WH13 is sort of the same reason I'm not up-to-date on Sanctuary. I burned myself out on creature/artifact-of-the-week and I think I just replaced them with Lost Girl. XD (Btw, if you like Claudia on WH13, you would probably like Kenzi on LG.) I think I'm finding myself drawn to shows these days that have a storyline that isn't really wrapped up in one ep.
And, also in the WH13 vein, Jaime Murray has a small role on that Youtube channel I was talking about. She's in the series called "Jan."
Ooo, something starring women is good! If women were making it, that would be better.
I love Brave. I hate that so much of the reviews are all about wether or not men and boys will go see a movie about a princess. (they did, actually) and everyone is SO SURPRISED.
I'm just expected to watch men. Of course I'd watch me. Why wouldn't I want to watch men?
Women's television shouldn't just be lifetime! Women should have the options of comic book movies and darkness like 'Breaking Bad'. Where are my female anti-heros? My female mob bosses?
I love and adore Lost Girl. I wish it had a bigger fandom. I haven't WH13ed yet but all my friends like it so uh yeah, I should. Monster of the week is hard sometmes because nothing else is the X-Files and uh, Scully. They did it best.
I've heard of Lip Service but have not watched it. Is it good?
I've sorta run into this, from a professional standpoint (hello, only female mechanical engineer in da house!), and a lot of what you talk about in your post is indicative of a deeper issue about gender and how roles are/aren't foisted upon us at an early age.
I've noticed that in current female-led shows that probably appeal to guys and that they might admit to watching (ex. the aformentioned Lost Girl, and my new sci-fi fave, Continuum), the lead female characters would be coded as a "badass."
The example at the end is SO SAD. DO NOT MOCK YOUR CHUILDREN. ARGH!
She's so dead on though. Girl books are for girls and boy books are for everyone! Sometimes, I wish Harry Potter had been a girl, because he got all his own books and his romance was secondary. Twilight, sigh...at least there's Hunger Games.
Badass women are okay to like. Sometimes, women in power and okay to like. Like "The Closer", Brenda Leigh Johnson is as close as a female anti-hero I think I can get on telly at the moment and her show must be watched by men because it keeps winning things.
Also maybe the "The Good Wife".
Continuum is good? Will watch.
But yes! The female badass is acceptable in a lead role, because she's masculine enough to be okay. Or something. I read something once that talked about rejecting feminity using Athena as the example that fits into the female badass lead. I'll have to search.
And.. huge huge props to you for being the only female mechanical engineer! Clearly, we need more of you.
This only touches on a little of your point, but I'm reminded of a teacher who once told me, early in my career, that the key to finding books for kids to read is to hook the boys because the girls will read anything.
I think that's part of the whole lack-of-women-on-tv thing. Men often will not watch shows about women (or at least won't admit to it), while women are more flexible in their viewing habits (though not always; I refuse to watch Person of Interest or Supernatural because, when I watched the first few episodes of these shows, there were no regular/main cast female characters, and screw whoever thinks I'm gonna watch a show entirely about men). And I don't know why, because apparently it's women who usually control the spending money in the average household, but the viewing numbers are all about the 18-45-year-old-male: that's their target audience.
As far as we've come, the world -- even the "enlightened" cultures -- are still ridiculously and sometimes painfully patriarchal. We still have a ways to go.
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And, also in the WH13 vein, Jaime Murray has a small role on that Youtube channel I was talking about. She's in the series called "Jan."
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I love Brave. I hate that so much of the reviews are all about wether or not men and boys will go see a movie about a princess. (they did, actually) and everyone is SO SURPRISED.
I'm just expected to watch men. Of course I'd watch me. Why wouldn't I want to watch men?
Women's television shouldn't just be lifetime! Women should have the options of comic book movies and darkness like 'Breaking Bad'. Where are my female anti-heros? My female mob bosses?
I love and adore Lost Girl. I wish it had a bigger fandom. I haven't WH13ed yet but all my friends like it so uh yeah, I should. Monster of the week is hard sometmes because nothing else is the X-Files and uh, Scully. They did it best.
I've heard of Lip Service but have not watched it. Is it good?
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http://squeetus.livejournal.com/161867.html
http://oinks.squeetus.com/2012/08/why-boys-dont-read-girls-sometimes.html
I've sorta run into this, from a professional standpoint (hello, only female mechanical engineer in da house!), and a lot of what you talk about in your post is indicative of a deeper issue about gender and how roles are/aren't foisted upon us at an early age.
I've noticed that in current female-led shows that probably appeal to guys and that they might admit to watching (ex. the aformentioned Lost Girl, and my new sci-fi fave, Continuum), the lead female characters would be coded as a "badass."
I could probably write more, but I am sleeeeeepy!
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She's so dead on though. Girl books are for girls and boy books are for everyone! Sometimes, I wish Harry Potter had been a girl, because he got all his own books and his romance was secondary. Twilight, sigh...at least there's Hunger Games.
Badass women are okay to like. Sometimes, women in power and okay to like. Like "The Closer", Brenda Leigh Johnson is as close as a female anti-hero I think I can get on telly at the moment and her show must be watched by men because it keeps winning things.
Also maybe the "The Good Wife".
Continuum is good? Will watch.
But yes! The female badass is acceptable in a lead role, because she's masculine enough to be okay. Or something. I read something once that talked about rejecting feminity using Athena as the example that fits into the female badass lead. I'll have to search.
And.. huge huge props to you for being the only female mechanical engineer! Clearly, we need more of you.
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I think that's part of the whole lack-of-women-on-tv thing. Men often will not watch shows about women (or at least won't admit to it), while women are more flexible in their viewing habits (though not always; I refuse to watch Person of Interest or Supernatural because, when I watched the first few episodes of these shows, there were no regular/main cast female characters, and screw whoever thinks I'm gonna watch a show entirely about men). And I don't know why, because apparently it's women who usually control the spending money in the average household, but the viewing numbers are all about the 18-45-year-old-male: that's their target audience.
As far as we've come, the world -- even the "enlightened" cultures -- are still ridiculously and sometimes painfully patriarchal. We still have a ways to go.
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