regarding the age issue
anonymous
March 11 2009, 10:32:11 UTC
Can I just float the idea that we are in a variety of countries with different consent ages. It's not a great stretch for people to be prepared to pair someone who is just below and will be legal upon their next birthday. For some people that includes Luffy and Usopp on that borderline. But for some that includes Chopper. I am deeply disturbed at having the word "paedophilia" waved around the latter when I think there is no great difference between those situations in the perception of the shippers involved.
Re: regarding the age issue
anonymous
March 12 2009, 13:03:53 UTC
You never said that the very word would have this kind of effect on you, and you seriously should have mentioned in the first post that you really, really, really, really didn't want people to use it when responding.
And how are people being horrible to you when they simply say you should see the people who offend you and accuse you of things as nothing more than the idiots they are and not to waste your energy on them? I think that's pretty good advice.
Nobody here accused you of being anything. It's too bad a word was enough to drive you away from the meme, but I guess the only thing I can do is wish you luck wherever you decide to go now.
Re: regarding the age issue
anonymous
March 12 2009, 13:23:55 UTC
I suppose I thought that most people would hold the word in a similar regard and understand that its use holds an implication and have the respect not to throw it around lightly. But instead I have been left increasingly appalled as people simply will not or cannot understand a single point that I make and repond by reiterating the same things over and over again and state that they will defend people's right to ship as they want without bashing or that I should ignore the idiots and yet DO NOT GET IT that they might be implying something by the very language they are using when they say those things and that it is worse than the bashing itself EVER was.
And nobody is sorry for that. I am disgusted, appalled, and I'm going to have to think on it, but yes, I think I might also be going.
Re: regarding the age issue
anonymous
March 12 2009, 13:34:32 UTC
You know what, I thought the thing you were originally upset about was the fact that people didn't understand your culture and the way you view the world, not the use of that word. That's what I was responding to, but I obviously got it all wrong.
I think you're being an asshole to people who were trying to be on your side but accidentally offended you by using a word that we now know makes you puke. We don't know what's going on inside your head and what will offend you until you mention it, because we can't read your mind. And how the hell are people supposed to discuss something without using the word for what they are discussing? I'm officially offended by the way you're acting here.
Re: regarding the age issue
anonymous
March 12 2009, 13:42:03 UTC
You're NOT on my side. You're NOT on the side of RoCho or whatever age-difference/marginally-underage shippers I can think of and which, IRONY, I'm actually NOT one, I just don't MIND it and found the calling Robin a paedophile bit fucking offensive.
If you are defending someone by implying they approve of paedophilia or like something that resembles it, YOU ARE NOT ON THEIR SIDE and you are not DEFENDING them.
Re: regarding the age issue
anonymous
March 12 2009, 13:52:56 UTC
I NEVER said that Robin is a pedophile! I was talking about how people in different countries see things differently because of different laws. And I never, ever said that people who write shota/loli approve of pedophilia! How the hell can you say something like that when it's not even fucking true?! I'm so angry right now that I'm on the verge of passing out! Fuck you! I'm leaving!
Re: regarding the age issue
anonymous
March 12 2009, 13:37:17 UTC
*not the anon you're answering to (maybe we need numbers or something)*
I read the original comment that used the word "pedophile", and while it obviously was a bad choice of words, it sure looks like the anon was talking about the ship, not the shippers. As in, the ship gives that anon a pedophilia vibe. I don't see where the anon says that the shippers are pedophiles.
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And how are people being horrible to you when they simply say you should see the people who offend you and accuse you of things as nothing more than the idiots they are and not to waste your energy on them? I think that's pretty good advice.
Nobody here accused you of being anything. It's too bad a word was enough to drive you away from the meme, but I guess the only thing I can do is wish you luck wherever you decide to go now.
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And nobody is sorry for that. I am disgusted, appalled, and I'm going to have to think on it, but yes, I think I might also be going.
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I think you're being an asshole to people who were trying to be on your side but accidentally offended you by using a word that we now know makes you puke. We don't know what's going on inside your head and what will offend you until you mention it, because we can't read your mind. And how the hell are people supposed to discuss something without using the word for what they are discussing? I'm officially offended by the way you're acting here.
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If you are defending someone by implying they approve of paedophilia or like something that resembles it, YOU ARE NOT ON THEIR SIDE and you are not DEFENDING them.
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I read the original comment that used the word "pedophile", and while it obviously was a bad choice of words, it sure looks like the anon was talking about the ship, not the shippers. As in, the ship gives that anon a pedophilia vibe. I don't see where the anon says that the shippers are pedophiles.
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