Yeah, it's very clear there was "virus" of sorts happening. I mean, seeing the person choke before you skate makes you nervous, and probably makes them double guess their own routine and hope that they don't also mess up. I mean, I think if you have clean, strong performances, it'll give the next skater a more competitive, driving reason to strive for a better program and beat you.
I don't agree with Kurt about making the sport easier. In every other sport, you see athletes striving to do the next "big thing" and incessantly pushing their sport further in terms of athletic ability and achievements. Making skating "easier" would definitely take away from it, honestly; I mean, if you want "easy", that's what exhibitions are for.
And you're right; there was also the fact that they did skate hella late, which honestly really sucks for them. They should let the figure skaters go do their event earlier ): Poor bbs.
yeah I don't like how they're making everyone skate so late. Make the start time earlier, esp since the Russian crowds are always fashionably late. And the foreigners who traveled to Sochi and bought tickets, they'll take whatever start time they can get. That USA-Russia hockey game...when was that held? Oh 4:30pm. I don't think it hurt them at all not having a later start time.
So, what was going through Patrick's mind as he skated that long, long program? “Survival.”
wow media and its tendency to overexaggerate. its not like they're gonna be beheaded if they lose lol. perhaps something like disgracing oneself and letting down their countries was going through every medal contender's head, not just chiddy's,
olys is essentially an athletic event so every athlete will try his very best to bring it in order to outscore the other competitors. we notice the strongest skaters by the difficulties of their jumps anyway (not just yuzu's 4s, eg mao with her 3a, very excited!) ok excl. people like misha ge because attention seeks him not the other way around (((fab))), he has fun but he aint getting no medals
medal contenders are not there to have fun, they're there to win all the things and bring honour to their countries, as harsh as this may seem, its the truth and the essence of an athletic competition.
It's really a tough call. On the one hand, you do want to encourage and reward skaters who challenge themselves with the most difficult elements, but I do agree that the rigidity of the requirements can discourage creativity and innovation, and I've long argued that jumps are overvalued relative to the other elements, especially the quad, which, incredible as it is for the split second it's happening, tends to result in a lot of really boring passes around the ice with maybe an arm wave or two thrown in for interest as they try to pick up enough speed. *yawn*
Not to mention the inevitable splat fests and injuries, which ruin otherwise perfectly good competitions (and skaters).
Simply, NO. I better watch the Sochi LP all over again than something safe, mistake-less and boring. The combination of grace and extreme athlecism is exatly what attrackts me to the sport.
I fully agree with just this: Making the spins simpler might be a start. So many times I see skaters trying to pretzel themselves into a shape that will give them another point. Some can do it but the spins are too often ugly and certainly tiring! For the life of me I don't understand what is aesthetically pleasing about that pretzel spin, or the A-spin, with the bum up in the air, or even that...ugh, terminology is a bitch, which takes place on two bended knees with one leg sticking out. Good God, they're hideous
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which takes place on two bended knees with one leg sticking out. Good God, they're hideous! the broken leg sit maybe?
I just want spins to be like: 1 camel spin 1 sit spin 1 upright spin (layback or regular scratch) all graded on speed/centering/how aesthetically pleasing your position is. levels can only be earned with flying entry, change of foot, or a certain amount of revolutions (not here for those fugly "difficult variations" or edge changes, let those only count for GOE so people won't do them just because they have to) +1 "choreography" spin where you can go crazy with the combo positions but counts as just 2 points + whatever GOE you get, like they do with the choreography sequence.
I've been rewatching this a million times this week and pretty much obsessed with the exit of her first spin, amazing how something so simple is so artistic.
as for jumps, I think the most glaring change that needs to happen is that sequences shouldn't be factored by 0.8. I'm sorry but I just don't understand how its okay for a double axel-
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Holy shit, you floored me with your knowledge! Now I'm embarrassed. :) I can barely differentiate between flips and lutzes, salchow is still a mystery, but I don't need replays to count rotations. *glows* :)
Ok, see I've been trying for AGES to figure out why I keep mixing up one jump with another whenever I look at the entry into the jump and you just solved the mystery for me. So it's not me, it's that all these skaters go into every jump with the same entry (or, in the case of a salchow, with two feet take-offs?!) and in the meanwhile I'm looking for a proper take-off entry that is supposed to correspond with whatever jump they're performing and getting confused instead, lmao.
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I don't agree with Kurt about making the sport easier. In every other sport, you see athletes striving to do the next "big thing" and incessantly pushing their sport further in terms of athletic ability and achievements. Making skating "easier" would definitely take away from it, honestly; I mean, if you want "easy", that's what exhibitions are for.
And you're right; there was also the fact that they did skate hella late, which honestly really sucks for them. They should let the figure skaters go do their event earlier ): Poor bbs.
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That USA-Russia hockey game...when was that held? Oh 4:30pm. I don't think it hurt them at all not having a later start time.
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wow media and its tendency to overexaggerate. its not like they're gonna be beheaded if they lose lol. perhaps something like disgracing oneself and letting down their countries was going through every medal contender's head, not just chiddy's,
olys is essentially an athletic event so every athlete will try his very best to bring it in order to outscore the other competitors. we notice the strongest skaters by the difficulties of their jumps anyway (not just yuzu's 4s, eg mao with her 3a, very excited!) ok excl. people like misha ge because attention seeks him not the other way around (((fab))), he has fun but he aint getting no medals
medal contenders are not there to have fun, they're there to win all the things and bring honour to their countries, as harsh as this may seem, its the truth and the essence of an athletic competition.
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Not to mention the inevitable splat fests and injuries, which ruin otherwise perfectly good competitions (and skaters).
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Making the spins simpler might be a start. So many times I see skaters trying to pretzel themselves into a shape that will give them another point. Some can do it but the spins are too often ugly and certainly tiring! For the life of me I don't understand what is aesthetically pleasing about that pretzel spin, or the A-spin, with the bum up in the air, or even that...ugh, terminology is a bitch, which takes place on two bended knees with one leg sticking out. Good God, they're hideous ( ... )
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I just want spins to be like:
1 camel spin
1 sit spin
1 upright spin (layback or regular scratch)
all graded on speed/centering/how aesthetically pleasing your position is. levels can only be earned with flying entry, change of foot, or a certain amount of revolutions (not here for those fugly "difficult variations" or edge changes, let those only count for GOE so people won't do them just because they have to)
+1 "choreography" spin where you can go crazy with the combo positions but counts as just 2 points + whatever GOE you get, like they do with the choreography sequence.
I've been rewatching this a million times this week and pretty much obsessed with the exit of her first spin, amazing how something so simple is so artistic.
as for jumps, I think the most glaring change that needs to happen is that sequences shouldn't be factored by 0.8. I'm sorry but I just don't understand how its okay for a double axel- ( ... )
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