Creationists hit back at Bill Nye with their own video

[sunoftheskye]

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[livinghope]

Turned it off at 2:15. If you're seriously going to say that starting your worldview from an arbitrary and ancient book is a better idea than starting with the results of men's experiments and observations over thousands of years, you have lost all credibility.

[romp]

and I think there were some women's experiments and observations as well

[brother_dour]

I do not think Genesis means what they think it means.

[confectionqueen]

Yeah, creatism will continue to get zero respect from me when your reasoning is "it says in the bible"

[skellington1]

How is it that it's entirely impossible for creationists to believe in evolution when we HUMANS have done evolution on a smaller scale with such things as domestic animals (all those pure breeds amount to evolution.)

Actually, if you ever get into or read an argument with a diehard creationist, they draw a (totally arbitrary!) line between 'micro-evolution' -- which they use for all the stuff that's impossible to ignore and easily provable -- and 'macro-evolution' -- which they use for, well, anything bigger they want to deny.

The idea that a lot of tiny changes over time will look like one big change if you look at the start and end points seems to totally escape them. I suspect it's less 'inability to understand' and more 'furious rationalization to protect worldview.'

[skellington1]

I am an atheist -- the technical term in philosophy is Agnostic Atheist. The two together mean that you don't claim to know the truth (and/or think the truth is inherently unknowable) and given that, don't believe in god. (Not believing in god is different than stating that you firmly believe there isn't one).

I totally agree on the idea that the God Hypothesis is pretty fucking terrifying, though! I'm also horrified when people say "Wait, if you're an atheist, where does your morality come from?" Like they'd steal and murder if they didn't have religion? Is that supposed to REASSURE me?

I'm not sure why life is supposed to have one 'meaning.' I'd rather just enjoy it to the best of my ability and try to do generally good things rather than bad things. I don't need more 'meaning' out of it, thanks.

[belleweather]

...children should be exposed to the both ALL ideas

There, fixed that for ya.

If you want to teach about your brand of mysterious sky being in school, we have a class for that. It's called comparative religion, it covers ALL religions and it is NOT/NOT found in the science faculty.

[mirhanda]

I feel that the place for religious instruction is in the home and the place of worship, unless you're talking about private religious schools. The only religious instructions public school kids should get would be, as you say, a course on comparative religion or perhaps in conjunction with history/geography/social studies. And even by that, I don't mean a "how to" on religion, just that "in suchandsuch country, blah is the dominant religion."

[belleweather]

Honestly, the very ecumenical comparative religion class I took in High School, which covered the basic contours of most major faiths (Buddhism, Hinduism, Judiasim, Islam, Christianity) as well as some 'minority' faiths was the single most useful thing I learned in High School. Actually knowing what actual Muslims/Hindus/Sihks/Jews believe makes it easier to understand sectarian tensions and WAY harder to get snowed by assholes on Fox News. So yeah... I'm pretty much two thumbs up for comprehensive comparative religious education.

[mirhanda]

I never had anything like that until college, sadly. I do think it would be a very useful addition to the high school, or even middle school curriculum.

[sunhawk]

"Do we start with man's ideas, who wasn't here during man's supposed billions of years of earth history or do we start with the Bible, the written revelation of the eyewitness account of the eternal God who created it all?"

And who wrote that account? Let me see, a guy who wasn't actually there either, funny that! LOL @ "eyewitness"
Fucking creationists, your religious ideas have no place in science, shoo! Shoo I say!

[romp]

Yeah, they can't even admit the history of their book! We know a lot about how the bible developed yet many people want to believe it was dictated by God and has remained unchanged. I suppose when you start with that scenario, the continuation of your group depends on people staying ignorant.

[othellia]

Not to mention the Council of Nicaea where they pretty much just picked and chose what parts they like.

BUT IT WAS ~DIVINE~ PICKING AND CHOOSING.

[romp]

I fear we're demonstrating why non-Christians (and progressive Christians, I suspect) are found to know the bible and biblical history better than Christians.

[celtic_thistle]

I simply cannot @ people who WILLFULLY DECEIVE THEIR CHILDREN ABOUT THE NATURE OF REALITY

Between this and the "o noes a gay character in a kids' movie" post I've fucking had it with these assclowns trying to make their kids into bigoted, ignorant shitheels just like them.

[skellington1]

Gotta love how both are basically "OMG You might make our children ask QUESTIONS and PAY ATTENTION! HORROR!"

[celtic_thistle]

Thinking critically? Questioning the dogma instilled in them? BLASPHEMY