Republican likens contraceptive mandate to Pearl Harbor, 9/11

[mollywobbles867]

A House Republican lawmaker likened the implementation of a new mandate that insurers offer coverage for contraceptive services to Pearl Harbor and the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks against the United States.

Pennsylvania Rep. Mike Kelly (R), an ardent opponent of abortion rights, said that today's date would live in infamy alongside those two other

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[brother_dour]

Beware the ebil, ebil condoms!

[nicosian]

I don't understand how making equal access to health care for women, under the guise of insurance offered to them at their own cost or as part of a salary package, birth control that Senator Butthurt has the option of not using ( or rather his spouse) as their faith deems fit, is an affront to any religious freedom.

Is there some link in his thinking that I'm missing? How is this an affront to freedom again? What assault on the populace? What tragedy?

What exactly, is the assault on their rights, religious or first amendment? No one's forcing them to use the pill. No one's forcing them to skip church to fill prescriptions.

fuck the GOP, man. ( or don't, because we know how they feel about your rights).

[tabaqui]

It's some kind of roundabout argument that, if a church group/church business/whatever has health insurance available to their employees, and that health insurance offers birth control, than somehow that's 'forcing' the church to 'support birth control' (or support women being slutty, slutty whores).

That's seriously the only argument i've heard, and i don't get it any more than you do. I think maybe they want to say that the church is 'paying' for the birth control, but i don't think so, unless part of the insurance is paid for by the employer.

I shall explain

[brother_dour]

Some religions (the more uber-conservative ones like RCC) believe that life begins at conception. So by some twist of logic, preventing fertilization is preventing life. And since they believe life begins with conception, using birth control equals premeditated murder. And so they claim that being forced to provide birth control is against their beliefs, and forcing them to provide birth control violates the First Amendment. Interestingly enough, the Bible says squat about contraception- just one or two that are routinely misinterpreted and taken out of context. In other words, it is doctrine, not dogma.

What none of those churches seem to realize is that human beings are just not disciplined enough to remain abstinent. You cannot realistically be against abortion yet also against birth control...

Re: I shall explain

[xerox78]

At least half of fertilized eggs never even implant, so if life begins at conception, then God is the biggest abortionist in the universe. (I ought to put that on a sign and picket outside of a Christian propaganda center crisis pregnancy center.)

[crossfire]

Sorry, where in the bible does it say you need to deny birth control to women? Can someone point out that passage? I'm not familiar with it.

[brother_dour]

Right. There is none.

My understanding is, the Bible contains explicit truths and implied truths. Explicit truths are what the Bible flat-out says, such as 'thou shalt not kill' or 'love thy neighbors as thyself'. Implied truths are what can be deduced from explicit truths. Anything else is left for human beings to figure out.

There is neither explicit truths nor implied truths about contraception, which means...guess what?

[tigerdreams]

I want you to remember August the 1st, 2012, the attack on our religious freedom.

Fuck yourself with a shovel. This isn't an ~attack~ on anybody's anything; it's an important step in guaranteeing women equal access to health care. I will happily have my birthday remembered for that; it's a damn sight better than that fucking Chick-Fil-A support thing (which I'm still pissed off about, btw).

[moonbladem]

Happy Birthday tigerdreams! :)

[tigerdreams]

Thank you! =D

[simplefaith08]

Happy birthday! :D

[cher_arlequin]

This sort of bullshit doesn't even phase me anymore. It's like Republicans are in a competition to see who can come up with the most blatantly offensive comparisons.