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Sep 21, 2011 11:58

The gender-free British passport: UK travellers may no longer have to declare their sex, to spare feelings of 'transgender people'

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fail, fuckery, transphobia, lgbtq / gender & sexual minorities

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mephisto5 September 21 2011, 12:39:06 UTC
I WANT THIS. SO MUCH.

And fuck yes to Huppert and Featherstone. *Proud to have helped vote Huppert in*

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devilstay September 21 2011, 13:01:04 UTC
I have a question that is kind OT, but I was wondering, when referring to someone who doesn't identify as either sex OR identifies as both, what do you use in place of 'he/she/him/her' etc. I hope this isn't an offensive question, but I can't think of an appropriate term in the English language that encompasses both sexes or neither sex outside of the word 'it' and...I'm not going to use that to refer to anyone.

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thelilyqueen September 21 2011, 13:27:23 UTC
I don't think there is a standard way in English at this point. Some people use constructed pronouns like zie, others use the singular they. Hopefully someone with more authority on this topic than I have will reply to you too.

One general rule, I'd say, is to pay attention to how someone refers to themselves, and if they express a preference go with it.

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kittymink September 21 2011, 14:24:40 UTC
"They" is the one I like to use for people if I don't know.

I honestly can't keep track of the invented pronouns.

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jwaneeta September 21 2011, 13:28:25 UTC
If you make things more uncertain, people feel more insecure and vulnerable.

Oh, just speak for yourself. It doesn't make me (or a lot of people, I suspect) feel insecure or vulnerable. We're not that delicate.

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kittymink September 21 2011, 14:32:33 UTC
This is a good idea, I guess. I would choose it.

Daily Fail?... and that blog post is gross:

"We need to know who we are - and who our neighbours are too!"

Yes, panty checks for everyone! And then Julia Manning (whoever she is) will decide what you are.

Also the perennial conservative bugbear of "relativism".

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liret September 21 2011, 14:58:54 UTC
"Most doctors advise early surgical and hormonal intervention for the sake of establishing the child's gender identity and sense of belonging in society.

Citation needed.

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