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The "Sissy Boy Experiment"

Jun 07, 2011 10:22

Los Angeles (CNN) -- Kirk Andrew Murphy seemed to have everything to live for.

He put himself through school. He had a successful 12-year career in the Air Force. After the service, he landed a high profile position with an American finance company in India.

But in 2003 at age 38, Kirk Murphy took his own life.

A co-worker found him hanging from the ( Read more... )

suicide, christianity, child abuse / csa, family values, focus on the family, homophobia, god save us from your followers, children, lgbtq / gender & sexual minorities

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erunamiryene June 7 2011, 22:20:33 UTC

Rekers wrote that Kirk would cry out for attention, even throwing tantrums, but Kaytee Murphy was told to keep going.

... there comes a point where the parent should step in and say FUCK YOU GET AWAY FROM MY KID, in my personal opinion.

At home, the punishment for feminine behavior would become more severe. The therapists instructed Kirk's parents to use poker chips as a system of rewards and punishments.

According to Rekers' case study, blue chips were given for masculine behavior and would bring rewards, such as candy. But the red chips, given for effeminate behavior, resulted in "physical punishment by spanking from the father."Holy fucking hell, how can someone do that to their kid? That's YOUR CHILD. You, as the goddamn parent, are responsible for making sure your child feels safe, and loved, and NOT BROKEN. Your children are not responsible for making sure YOU feel comfortable with how THEY choose to be, holy shit ( ... )

sizequeen June 7 2011, 23:49:39 UTC

Maybe it's hard to see, but they were trying to protect him, by curing his homosexuality (or perceived homosexuality). To their minds a few beatings would prevent him from becoming a hip swinging, crazy, sinning homosexual who would never have a normal life.

erunamiryene June 7 2011, 23:55:30 UTC

... yeah, I honestly cannot understand that method of thinking. Not to mention, it doesn't sound like "a few" beatings. :(

IDK ... I just can't get my head around the idea of "protecting" my child by making them feel broken and beating the shit out of them.

sizequeen June 8 2011, 00:15:36 UTC

They were trying to eliminate his "bad traits" so his good traits would win out. The pain he experienced was supposed to save his mind, body, soul and future. You also have to realize that people back then were not knowledgeable about how childhood trauma affected adults. They probably figured the damage was temporary, and that the long term consequences would be beneficial.

You also have to keep in mind that society's view of appropriate corporal punishment was very different. My parents were born in the late 50s and both of them were beaten with extension cords---for their own good, so they would become good people. My mom turned out totally normal although I got a few spankings with her hand. My father, on the other hand, rebelled against his severely religious, don't "spare the rod" upbringing and became a substance abuser.

Back then, you pretty much had to *kill* a kid before the state would consider the behavior abusive.

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sesmo June 7 2011, 22:21:54 UTC

"Today, it would be abuse." No bitch, beating your child with a belt until he had welts up and down his body was abuse then too. This wasn't the 1800s. This was the 1970s.

arisma June 8 2011, 00:22:11 UTC

OMFG THIS. I said it right out loud even.

dangerousdame June 8 2011, 01:24:13 UTC

This.

sparkindarkness June 8 2011, 12:44:01 UTC

This

It's not "today it would be abuse" it was abuse. Pure and simple

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lizzy_someone June 8 2011, 02:57:04 UTC

Came here to say this. You're his fucking parents and you abused your son, take a little fucking responsibility.

epithetique June 8 2011, 03:10:45 UTC

Exactly. Fucking this. JFC, how deluded is she? Take some fucking responsibility. She was the one who was "worried" by the behaviour and jumped at the advertisement for the therapy. What a twit.

evewithanapple June 7 2011, 22:53:56 UTC

Kirk's mother said she believes the experimental therapy destroyed Kirk's life.

YOU FUCKING ABUSED HIM. You took him to that study, you emotionally blackmailed him, and you beat him. You beat your own son. You're just as culpable as Rekers, if not more, so don't you fucking dare to put off the blame.

My mother did something similar when I was a kid- shut herself off and refuse to speak to me when she was angry, sometimes for days- and even that left me an emotional wreck. I can't imagine the effects this would have.

dangomango June 7 2011, 22:58:22 UTC

this is horrible :( wtf is wrong with people