University to investigate live sex demonstration

Mar 05, 2011 15:49

The president of an American university said on Thursday he was launching an investigation into an on-campus presentation of a live sex act performed for students at an after class event.

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sihaya09 March 5 2011, 22:24:46 UTC
So, it was a consensual act presented in a properly-advertised way in which attendance was not required?

What's the fuss?

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doe_witch March 5 2011, 22:39:24 UTC
Jfc. O_O;

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txvoodoo March 6 2011, 01:30:31 UTC
Unless the students were tied to their chairs, how was their viewing non-consensual?

It says right there that they discussed it. Was that on stage?

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txvoodoo March 6 2011, 01:48:56 UTC
Optional after-class event, not required lecture.

I didn't say "discussed BY the class" but discussed/mentioned in front of it. From my reading of the salon article, that's what happened. And again, once people start disrobing, isn't that a clue?

I am keeping this apart from the guy's past history because really, as awful as that is, it's not related to this.

We're not talking high-schoolers here, we're talking adults. I personally object to this cotton-wool handling of adults.

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txvoodoo March 6 2011, 01:57:38 UTC
Well, that's a a riposte used often here to be dismissive and make oneself feel superior, but alas, you're incorrect.

I got your point, I just disagree with it.

That's equally valid, you know.

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txvoodoo March 6 2011, 02:06:44 UTC
"You invalidated my opinion by suggesting that giving people full warning is akin to infantalizing them."

No, I expressed my opinion. When someone disagrees with you, it doesn't invalidate your opinion. I still think it infantalizes people to be so hypersensitive. My opinion.

As someone with crippling anxiety myself, I suggest that if I found this subject in its entirety to be something which triggers it, I wouldn't have attended the event in the first place.

Life is full of choices like that. And yes, I'm of the view that it does suck for people whose anxiety is triggered by the unexpected. That's why anxiety sucks. But life can't be made to fit every situation like that. I make accomodations for my anxiety issues. It sucks, I hate it, but there it is.

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salienne March 6 2011, 15:54:38 UTC
You can't make an informed choice if you don't know what's going to be happening beforehand, a live sex demonstration is completely different than looking at sex toys and hearing about their uses in the BDSM community, and getting up in the middle of a lecture is completely different from whether or not one attends in the first place. Informed consent cannot be coerced, and the peer pressures and pressure from leaving in front a professor, in this situation, make informed consent pretty much impossible.

Also, way to be really fucking dismissive of someone else's anxiety. Protip: not everyone is you, and "life can't be made to fit every situation" is such a fucking cop-out from taking responsibility for getting informed consent in situations like this that it's ridiculous.

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