On Debating Our Debate.

Jan 10, 2011 22:03

 As we debate what kind of rhetoric is and isn't objectionable, it would help if we could make some specific distinctions and keep some important things in mind. To that end:

Every gun metaphor is not created equal. Military metaphors infuse our talk about politics; the only thing that comes close is sports. The word "campaign" only relatively ( Read more... )

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doverz January 11 2011, 05:22:47 UTC
This is a perfect summary of every argument we've been making.

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saramiskismet January 11 2011, 05:23:31 UTC
Every single gotdammed thing in this article: yes.

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schexyschteve January 11 2011, 05:27:15 UTC
Too bad the people that this needs to reach will jam their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen.

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plushielover177 January 11 2011, 05:27:34 UTC
If you're going to say "Liberals do it too" then you ought to provide some evidence.

Or you could just not follow their example. The "X does it too" excuse has never flown with me because if you think what their doing is so bad than you shouldn't be doing the same thing.

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bluetooth16 January 11 2011, 05:29:18 UTC
A common argument going around is that there's a double standard regarding anger. Some claim that the Left can get away with anger but the Right can't. What do you think ONTD_P?

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free_spoons January 11 2011, 05:32:57 UTC
I would say that if you're going to say "Liberals do it too" than you ought to provide some evidence.

But also, that there is a difference between being angry and talking about taking "second amendment solutions" to things you're angry at.

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optimsprm January 11 2011, 05:33:48 UTC
My personal response would be regarding the cause of the anger.
The Left has legitimate reasons to be angry at times. And so does the Right, it has been my observation, however, that more often than not, the vocal right (the ones that we see on the TV) have been getting angry about the wrong things.
This is by no means saying that the left does not do the same, but admittedly I don't observe them to the same degree that I do the Right.

(And incidentally bluetooth16, I know that you dislike both Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, however I would recommend the first segment of tonight's the Daily Show)

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ladypolitik January 11 2011, 06:12:09 UTC
The Left has legitimate reasons to be angry at times. And so does the Right, it has been my observation, however, that more often than not, the vocal right (the ones that we see on the TV) have been getting angry about the wrong things.

Bingo.

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