Why it's okay to wage joystick jihad

Aug 27, 2010 23:04



As terrorism concerns soar, critics are blasting a video game that lets you play a Taliban insurgent. But, writes Richard Poplak, there's nothing to fear


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layweed August 28 2010, 03:12:13 UTC
THE BOMB HAS BEEN PLANTED.

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captain_emily August 28 2010, 03:37:34 UTC
GO GO GO!

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layweed August 28 2010, 04:51:22 UTC
AFFIRMATIVE!

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watchsnowfall August 28 2010, 03:46:43 UTC
Is it bad I'm lirl?

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erunamiryene August 28 2010, 03:16:44 UTC
Hmm.

Honestly, I think the whole "OOH IF YOU PLAY VIDEO GAMES YOU'RE GOING TO BECOME [X]" is bullshit, or I'd be out wrecking cars right now or playing onstage with Green Day.

With military games, it was the recent Six Days in Fallujah. The game depicts, in detail, the 2004 campaign that claimed over 6,000 lives and transformed a once-flourishing city into a bloody parking lot. What outraged veterans' advocacy groups, such as the Gold Star Mothers Club, was not only the speed with which Fallujah became rock-'em sock-'em entertainment, but the fact that developers Atomic Games, in their quest for accuracy, used Iraqi insurgents as consultants on the project.Ooookay, THAT kind of made me raise an eyebrow. I mean ... good on them for accuracy but ... eesh. That's a pretty good candidate for "too soon", IMO. IDK. (Not that they talked to insurgents, just ... yeah. Fallujah all the way around. What's next, you get to play some of the AF that fired on Marines in An Nasiryiah ( ... )

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fatpie42 August 28 2010, 03:32:48 UTC
"Six Days in Falljah" isn't the same as the "Medal Of Honor" game they criticise for most of the article and it actually seems like quite an ambitious and thoughtful project:
Atomic Games describes Six Days as a survival horror game, but not in the traditional sense. The fear in Six Days does not come from the undead or supernatural, but from the unpredictable, terrifying, and real tactics employed by the insurgents that were scattered throughout Fallujah ( ... )

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erunamiryene August 28 2010, 04:36:03 UTC
Hmmmmm. Fair enough. That doesn't sound as bad. I think for me it's just kind of an "erm ... well ... um" reaction simply because I know people that died there, you know? I do appreciate what they're trying to do, though, if that makes sense.

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frillywitch August 28 2010, 03:19:53 UTC
I never play as the Empire in Star Wars Battlefront because it breaks my heart to shoot down a nice rebel pilot.

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notgarystu August 28 2010, 03:25:33 UTC
STAY ON TARGET

STAY ON TARGET

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frillywitch August 28 2010, 03:41:28 UTC
DEFEAT IS IMMINENT!

Me: NOOOO

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spinnigold August 28 2010, 08:33:26 UTC
I LOVE YOU

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notgarystu August 28 2010, 03:24:27 UTC
So people are enraged about this game putting people behind the controls of a Taliban insurgent . . . but they don't give a shit that it also puts players behind the controls of soldiers who go around mowing down Taliban insurgents.

Double standard much?

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watchsnowfall August 28 2010, 03:49:28 UTC
This is pretty much my thinking too. I mean, if the gameplay is truly realistic, it'd involve shooting fifteen year old insurgents too...

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haruhiko August 28 2010, 04:15:47 UTC
Precisely what I was coming here to say. I'm just as (if not MORE) appalled at games that allow people to shoot up a bunch of brown people/"the other" without any thought.

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lanwut August 28 2010, 04:32:51 UTC
That's probably why I always feel uncomfortable playing most of those kinds of games, I just hadn't been able to pinpoint the reason. Thanks :)

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carverhawke August 28 2010, 03:29:54 UTC
This really isn't anything new. Most video games let you play as the "enemy" I mean I just got done playing Red Dead Redemption as a Mexican Rebel shooting down the American Army...Or Modern Warfare where you can play as the "terrorists". idk I guess I don't see the big deal because I know it's just a video game?

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captain_emily August 28 2010, 03:44:22 UTC
Exactly. MW2 gave you the option to skip the level. That sums it up for me, really. Don't like, don't play.

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watchsnowfall August 28 2010, 03:45:39 UTC
I couldn't fire a shot on that MW2 level. I froze up and got all shaky and had to turn it off.

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captain_emily August 28 2010, 03:51:04 UTC
I walked the level, but I didn't shoot either. At least not until I got away from the civilians and was faced with SWAT. I couldn't bring myself to shoot an unarmed civilian in the back. But I'm one of those people that generally refuses to play the bad guy. Light Side FTW!

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