Invasion of the Asians is fiction, not a fact

Aug 22, 2010 10:22

I'm a big fan of 'The Tomorrow Series' by John Marsden. I was a teen when the books first became big and I loved it because it had a strong female protagonist and it had a very peace message 'war is hell, being a soldier destroys the soul' etc. I also loved it because it was set in a landscape that was very familiar to me, as an Australian ( Read more... )

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kittycurious August 23 2010, 02:51:23 UTC
being able to imagine something means it is conceivable.

I really like this.

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frillywitch August 23 2010, 03:04:16 UTC
Kinda OT, but I read these books a long time ago and loved them, but I've never been able to remember the name of the series and find them. Thanks for reminding me!!!

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koken23 August 23 2010, 03:34:17 UTC
To be fair, in the original source material no country or countries is ever named. That was a deliberate choice.

It can be problematic - and I wish cinema didn't demand a specific visual identity for the invaders at all - but it also makes a fair bit of sense. Who is there that's simultaneously close enough to invade (if they so chose) and has the military resources to hold Australia after a successful invasion?

There's a reasonably long list for the geographic criteria. There's a somewhat shorter list for the military criteria. Countries fitting both...that's a tricky one, because very few countries have both.

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koken23 August 23 2010, 03:57:09 UTC
The United States could - they can have a big presence anywhere with the sort of technology they have at their disposal, and it'd only take about three days at most to set up the first invasion framework. They wouldn't because we have a treaty going, and in the context of the movie it's actually a major plot point that they're not involved, but they could.

Otherwise...China could. Indonesia could, though they might struggle to keep up a presence in the empty bits in the middle. Japan could if their constitution allowed it, but it doesn't, and they'd have the same issues Indonesia would. Other than that, it's coalitions only, and even they would struggle.

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homasse August 23 2010, 04:12:43 UTC
Schools are one place we might gain a better understanding of our neighbours, but right now we teach very little, despite there being a lot to learn. Most of us have heard of Chaucer's Canterbury Tales but not the classic 11th-century Japanese novel The Tale of Genji, or any other classic Asian text.To be fair, this runs both ways, as I learned when I worked in a junior high school in Japan. NONE of them knew anything about Shakespeare other than his name, not even the name of any play but "Romeo and Juliet," and I know very few Japanese people who have read anything by him or who would know who Chaucer was, but everyone knows The Journey to the West and Romance of the Three Kingdoms, and the other big classics of Chinese literature (and Tales of Genji and the big works of classical Japanese literature.) I have the same last name as a very famous American writer, and in the whole eight years I've lived in Japan, I can count on one hand with fingers left over the number of people who made the connection when they heard my name. So a ( ... )

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surealistic_des August 24 2010, 18:49:54 UTC
That's an interesting point. On how while we may be limited in our knowledge on classic Asian lit, the same goes for them on Western lit. It might be that schools aren't really interested in teaching students about Asian literature, because it's not relevant to them. We all studied works by American and English writers, if I recall correctly.

That or, and I'm horribly stereotyping here, which I apologise unless you're Asian, you wouldn't have known of Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Ramayana, Genji, Tale of Kieu, Basho, etc

Another point would be, our lack of interest in learning Asian languages despite that our nearest neighbors are Asian. One of the rare things I liked about KRudd, was that he was bilingual and spoke Chinese.

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mortichro August 23 2010, 11:05:07 UTC
KANGAROOOOOSSS!!

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