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jesidres August 14 2010, 05:24:00 UTC
Colored me shocked...NOT.

Wonder how Ahmadinejad is going to spin this? Work of the US? UK? "I won, no takebacksies?"

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akuma_river August 14 2010, 05:30:44 UTC
We aren't shocked we knew it all along...but now we got EVIDENCE!!!!

Their own hit squad guy was caught blabbing about it in a massive speech and this guy is a SPOOK. He's like a Hit Wizard...or Unspeakable, numerous names, tortures people for a living, and he's a big general who strangely no one knew his name until the speech.

What I love is that the Greens' are SUING over this and using it as evidence of wrong doing by the regime.

It may change anything in that there is no takebacksies...but the next election or impeachment...will be radically different.

Day by day the people losing belief and will in the government.

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jesidres August 14 2010, 05:36:13 UTC
Yeah, I'm glad there's evidence... but I keep fearing it's not going to make a lick of difference, lawsuit or not. :/

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akuma_river August 14 2010, 05:40:06 UTC
At this point, think of it not as revolution...but Civil Rights Movement.

The way it will be won is through lawsuits, judges, religious figures, and THE PEOPLE.

Iran's already changed in the past ten years as it is no longer a full theocracy but more of authortarian government runned junta that is masking as a theocracy.

Things may have really slowed down...but in the Age of the Geek things are still changing, information being passed, proxy servers, education, etc.

It's a marathon not a sprint and the lead fighters are still sticking it out.

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leprofessional August 14 2010, 06:05:24 UTC
(1) Tehran Bureau is hardly what I would call "independent ( ... )

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akuma_river August 14 2010, 06:24:17 UTC
(1), I'm not sure what you mean. Tehran Bureau is now working with PBS's Frontline.

(2), I'm not sure what you mean as sketchy. There is audio of the speech he gave, witnesses, a transcript in Persian is circulating around...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2010/08/new-evidence-of-fraud-in-2009-election.html
The basis for the lawsuit is a speech given by a hitherto little-known but high-ranking Guard officer, Sardar (commander) Moshfegh, who is linked with the Guards' intelligence unit and is deputy director of intelligence for the Sarallah military base. Moshfegh delivered the speech in question to a group of clerics in Mashhad last fall. Quoting from the speech, the plaintiffs point out how their arrest warrants were requested by the Guard command center in Sarallah several days prior to the election. Nabavi and others have previously said that when the security forces ( ... )

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octocoffee August 14 2010, 21:25:59 UTC
Yay for sweet vindication. I'm really glad that they've got something to go with now, and hopefully other pieces will surface as they dig deeper.

And a little OT, but was there ever an apology for the murder of Neda or others who died during the riots in '09? I never found out.

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