Frenemies are enemies who act like friends.

[schmiss]

The White House v. Howard Dean

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[hinoema]

I agree with some things Dean said; however, a 'not good enough so it's garbage' attitude is not helping matters.

[thebigbadbutch]

The bill isn't garbage because it's "not good enough". The bill is garbage because it's a giant handout to the insurance companies and makes almost no real changes to the health insurance industry.

[hinoema]

Maybe, maybe not- the point being that saying 'Ok, this and that are on the right track, but we need to work on this and that' comes off better than 'It's junk, scrap it'. It's too easy for the media to run with just that, which only succeeds in demoralizing people when they really don't need it.

It's not what he said, it's how he said it, more or less.

[usedshoes]

Gibbs was the spokesman of a group that ran anti-Dean ads before the 2004 election.

Oh.

Anyway, if this is true:

the bill is "an insurance company's dream" and a "bigger bailout for the insurance industry than AIG."

I'm pretty much :| but honestly, anything is better than nothing. Who knows how long it will get them to start all over on it and if the same thing will happen all over again.

[schmiss]

my thoughts exactly. We can't kill the bill and start over. It'd be impossible, the moderates and conservatives in the caucus would refuse to go through this again.

[txvoodoo]

I'm dreading a repeat of 1994. It took until 2009 for us to come back from that. I don't want to wait until 2024 for our next attempt at healthcare reform

[thebigbadbutch]

Howie looks so cute an innocent in that picture. It's like looking at a grown up Dennis the Menace.

Anyway the White House is full of shit. They've been trying to throw the public option out since day one. If they actually wanted to keep the public option they would have started with universal health care and compromised down to universal health insurance then compromised to the public option. Instead they started with the public option and have been looking for any excuse to get the congress to dump it. Obama is full of shit and Rahm Emmanuel can suck a hairy dick.

[wands]

This. I was trying to be optimistic for so long, but it's become painfully clear that the White House just doesn't give a fuck about actually reforming health care.

[mswyrr]

Yes.

What a waste of opportunity.

[schmiss]

They went about it in a horrible way. True.

But not passing the bill would leave us where we started. Even if the bill improves us by a little bit its a start. God knows if we drop the bill now the topic will be poison until Obama's second term, if not longer.

[wands]

I think he explains himself well in this video. Cenk nails it, too.

[c_yo_yus]

...Chris Matthews said that to Dean? Jesus --- That's horribly rude.

[cure_my_tragety]

I saw that too, that was so low.