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Apr 24, 2009 18:22

Obama Avoids Calling Armenian Killings "Genocide"By REUTERS ( Read more... )

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randomneses April 24 2009, 23:29:30 UTC
Well genocide has way more serious implications. Nobody just throws that word around.

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randomneses April 24 2009, 23:36:33 UTC
Are you at all familiar with how important acknowledging what happened as a genocide is to Armenians?

Of course it is important that he is talking about it in the first place but I don't think it is fair to dismiss terminology when it is clearly so important to some people.

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horcrionebay April 24 2009, 23:33:58 UTC
I highly doubt he was avoiding using "genocides." I really wish people would stop making a big deal about every little thing.

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member00 April 24 2009, 23:42:54 UTC
He used Armenian to avoid using genocide in an ENGLISH statement.

Have you ever heard any American head of state or politician use " as haShoah (Hebrew: השואה), Churben (Yiddish: חורבן)" to refer to the Jewish Holocaust in an English statement to Americans?

I got hebrew and yiddish words from Wikipdeia*

It's interesting you consider recognizing 1.5 million people being slaughtered as genocide a "little thing"

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member00 April 24 2009, 23:50:46 UTC
How can anyone expect action if he can't even get the words out.

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onelittlesleep April 24 2009, 23:37:40 UTC
Fuck.

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member00 April 24 2009, 23:44:53 UTC
I was gonna post about this but I was late and my post was probably not fit for lj but heres my take ( ... )

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randomneses April 24 2009, 23:49:09 UTC
IDK, I see how it could be a cop out but Obama also has a tendency to make things more personal for groups of people and that may be another example of it? Maybe he thought it would be appreciated? I still get the frustration though.

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member00 April 24 2009, 23:58:57 UTC
I understand what you mean. I don't doubt that this is what he feels was the most he could say without compromising Turkey's participation in the troops returning. I just wish more people took Adam Schiff's stance on the balancing of allies vs human rights issues. He basically said that if Turkey refused to help us with the war because he decidede to accept historical fact, then maybe they aren't as good friends of the US as we seem to think. [This was back when he questioned C. Rice about the Bush administrations refusal to accept the Armenian Genocide.

Sorry for all the blabbing, its a personal issue for me, obviously :)

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randomneses April 25 2009, 00:12:44 UTC
I def feel you. You Armenian?

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__amerie April 24 2009, 23:47:40 UTC
What? In Turkey when asked by a reporter if he still held the position that what happened was genocide and he said YES. Time to move on to the next poutrage.

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randomneses April 24 2009, 23:50:03 UTC
When was this again?

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horcrionebay April 24 2009, 23:51:51 UTC
From the article:

Despite his careful word choice, Obama said his position on the killings was unchanged.

"I have consistently stated my own view of what occurred in 1915, and my view of that history has not changed," he said. "My interest remains the achievement of a full, frank and just acknowledgment of the facts."

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__amerie April 25 2009, 00:02:49 UTC
April 6th during a joint presser with Abdullah Gul. He said his views are on record and haven't changed.

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