Who’s afraid of a Clinton voter?

Jun 04, 2017 20:58

We’re expected to understand the rage of Trump’s supporters but not the anguish of the 66 million who voted against him.Lately I’ve seen several articles by both centrist and center-right pundits, none of them friends of Donald Trump, warning that we should be wary of removing the president from office because it will anger his already very angry ( Read more... )

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naotmaa June 5 2017, 22:58:30 UTC
I have family members who voted for Trump, I live in a blue state but work at a job that has brought me face to face with a lot of Trump supporters. I find it so infantilizing to be like, "They may be Trump supporters but we have to treat their feelings as valid or you risk pushing them further away." Well, no. If their feelings are racist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, etc. I don't have to think their feelings are valid. I mean, I am in favor of respectful debate and discussions. But I find it increasingly harder to find people that want to have those, so how can you respect their feelings when they don't respect yours ( ... )

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nervhq7 June 6 2017, 16:19:31 UTC
I've seen a number of people do what I think you are doing. You state "I find it so infantilizing to be like, "They may be Trump supporters but we have to treat their feelings as valid or you risk pushing them further away." Well, no. If their feelings are racist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, etc. I don't have to think their feelings are valid ( ... )

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kyouichi June 6 2017, 17:38:47 UTC
First, I don't think naotmaa was saying that all trump voters are racist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophogic, etc ( ... )

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soleiltropiques June 6 2017, 20:44:45 UTC
Let me ask you this.

If one sees a candidate/potential leader acting in blatantly racist, islamophobic, homophobic, misogynistic, transphobic (etc*) ways, how ethical can an individual be when they elect to vote for this person? Because this implies that they saw what this racist (etc*) person was going to do and, on some level at least, said to themselves, "I don't care".

Note(s):
*Et j'en passe!

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soleiltropiques June 6 2017, 20:47:29 UTC
This is an interesting article and it makes good points. :)

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grace_om June 6 2017, 22:01:46 UTC
Even if the Russian attempts to shape opinions and generally meddle in the election had no demonstrable effect on the outcome, it is still a bad thing needing investigation so it can be stopped in the future ( ... )

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lightframes June 7 2017, 03:48:43 UTC
Perhaps I’m misremembering, but I can’t recall any similar anthropological snapshots of communities that strongly backed Barack Obama when his approval ratings were at their nadir. Nor do I remember any worries that Republican attempts to thwart Obama at every opportunity, and even steal a Supreme Court seat from him, would make his base question our system.

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This article hits it - no one is afraid of us. It's fine to write 10 articles a day about how we were wrong to vote for HRC and make up all kinds of wrong reasons why we did it but Trump voters need to be "understood."

You can tell someone they are wrong and still try to understand them! The two are not mutually exclusive!

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