Taibbi discusses Shattered, the book about the 2016 campain

[lollycunt]

There is a critical scene in Shattered, the new behind-the-scenes campaign diary by Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes, in which staffers in the Hillary Clinton campaign begin to bicker with one another

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[hikerpoet]

(I haven't read the book.) I don't disagree with a lot of this. She was flawed. She was overly reserved. She had a branding issue. And while some of Trump's true business acumen may be dubious (seems he's more just a con man) the one aspect he does get and does seem to be very skilled at is branding, selling his brand of...whatever, even though most of us here despise his particular brand

[moonshaz]

*APPLAUSE*

Omg, yes, to ecvery word of this! I can't think of anything to add, because you covered it all.

I an really weary of the "Hillary is the personification of evil and solely personally responsible for Trump's win" trope that's been expressed here and elsewhere so many times. Yes, she made mistakes, but I have seen a tendency to blow some of them WAY out of proportion while at the same time sweeping other equally significant factors (including misogyny) under the rug and pretending they either don't exist or don't matter.

I'm NOT saying she is not to be criticized. I'm just saying everything, including her errors, needs to be looked at in the proper perspective, as individual elements of a large and complex picture. I see nothing to be gained by focusing on one tree while ignoring the entire rest of a sizeable forest.

[rainbows_]

Part of me still sees sexist roots, though. She only wanted to run because she "felt it was her turn"?

Can’t believe I thought “I’m with her” was the most uninspiring possible messaging when this gem was actively considered pic.twitter.com/DD3olWV2vm
- Rocketpilot 🎸 (@ABillionSuns) April 21, 2017

Based off of this quote:

@ABillionSuns @unclesahm @OrrChris the following two paragraphs include the quotes he (presumably) based that on pic.twitter.com/8P1yaPOZqF
- Keshav Kini (@ffee_machine) April 21, 2017

[hikerpoet]

I admit I'm biased as well, and while I might read something longer and documented and first hand that may make me "read" this differently, this doesn't convince me she was only in it for power and money and evil, tho?

We've established she's not great at branding (although some of that comes from what we're conditioned to "expect" from those seeking power) and both winning and losing candidates have had some clunky or oddball slogans.

If it *was* being discussed in a serious, high-level way, I'd personally read it more as a feminist rallying cry, as in "It is HER turn" collectively, as as a jab against the patriarchy, not just in reference to her specifically or the symbolic office.

[rainbows_]

This was a really good article! See my post for more information and quotes (in the comments) from the book. Also the twitter user below is currently reading the book and adding her commentary while she reads it.

it's like a recurring nightmare but where clinton 's team never learns from their mistakes and keeps doing the same thing pic.twitter.com/Ek6bf5aMm5
- robbymookisafraud (@garbagekate) April 21, 2017

bernie won white women vote in mi primary 👀 pic.twitter.com/GiVTfx12oU
- robbymookisafraud (@garbagekate) April 21, 2017

@garbagekate a whole campaign run on the premise that nothing is really that bad in America. what could go wrong
- Mark (@haircut_hippie) April 21, 2017

@garbagekate it's definitely good he was cautious with his cash on field work. they only had a billion dollars, after all
- Roger Bellin (@rogerbellin) April 21, 2017

and when she loses, it's never bc of her - ancient hillary proverb pic.twitter.com/c400ycDwS1
- robbymookisafraud (@garbagekate) April 21, 2017

wjc believed he did the right thing scolding

[blackjedii]

i miss joe biden

[rainbows_]

Another article about the book:

In which I read Shattered and despair at the incompetence of the Clinton campaign https://t.co/JKZGWReXhg
- Alex Nichols (@Lowenaffchen) April 21, 2017

"In truth, Clinton’s 2016 campaign failed for most of the same reasons her 2008 campaign did: a disorganized staff struggled to define a clear and persuasive message for their unexciting establishment candidate

[rainbows_]

even obama was frustrated with hillary's setting up the server and further her handling of the scandal, from july pic.twitter.com/kpLlfed8Fr
- robbymookisafraud (@garbagekate) April 22, 2017

obama also questioned hillary's syria strategy pic.twitter.com/2y9aEXUAfk
- robbymookisafraud (@garbagekate) April 22, 2017

veep finalists pic.twitter.com/6hJtDfZcNF
- robbymookisafraud (@garbagekate) April 22, 2017

lmao pic.twitter.com/W9CB3JPE7g
- robbymookisafraud (@garbagekate) April 22, 2017

lol pic.twitter.com/Zi56xO8225
- robbymookisafraud (@garbagekate) April 22, 2017

another hill prob: favoring loyalty over competency pic.twitter.com/2LfV1nVomZ
- robbymookisafraud (@garbagekate) April 22, 2017