Jon Stewart Gives Prognosis of Nation's (In)Sanity: Trumpfluenza

Dec 02, 2016 22:30

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Jon Stewart Finally Went Long About The Election And Donald Trump
“He said she was unqualified because she gave a speech to Goldman Sachs. His Secretary of the Treasury is somebody from Goldman Sachs.”

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mimblexwimble December 2 2016, 14:04:32 UTC
And I’ll say this, I know a lot of first responders. I spent a lot of time in that community. A shitload of them voted for Trump. The same people that voted for Trump ran into burning buildings and saved whoever the fuck they could no matter what color they were, no matter what religion and they would do it again tomorrow. So, if you want to sit and tell me that those people are giving tacit approval to an exploitative system ― I say, “OK, and would you put your life on the line for people who aren’t like you? Because they did.” I get mad about this stuff.

What the fuck?

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meadowphoenix December 2 2016, 14:42:55 UTC
No no, we should clap that they managed to not try to decide who lives or dies on the basis of race or religion, something which is definitely illegal, and did their job.

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invisiblegirlx December 2 2016, 15:14:44 UTC

he's so wrong about this. you can still do good things and at the same time be indifferent to systemic racism.

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vvalkyri December 2 2016, 16:33:58 UTC
Thing is, those who are indifferent or ignorant about systemic racism quite often think they aren't racist. And the word is overloaded to include both overt and systemic/implicit racism, so telling someone whose conscious decisions involved other matters (guns, perception of who will give them jobs, what have you) that they don't know what is in their own heads is at best counterproductive.

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blackjedii December 2 2016, 15:41:06 UTC
yeah jonny-boy you kind of lost credibility with the "both sides are bad and hyperbolic!" when Republicans were routinely, openly trying to screw Obama over and using racism as a rallying cry

And that while we were all passing around really remarkably eviscerating videos of the Tea Party ― that we had all made great fun of ― [they were] sitting off a highway at a Friendly’s taking over a local school board.

And the lesson there is, as much as I love what we did and I liked it, there is a self-satisfaction there that is unwarranted, unearned and not useful.
How nice that you learn this now after giving up said platform!! w2g w2g where's that dude clapping gif when i need it

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blackjedii December 3 2016, 12:09:26 UTC
Don't disagree wrt media but I took umbrage with him attacking he parties in govt at the time. Of course, nowadays the disgust is pretty much earned. :/

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lokilaufeysanon December 3 2016, 12:11:28 UTC
And I'm pretty sure it was two hosts for MSNBC who were caught agreeing to go easy on Trump during an interview (they had cut to break, but the mics were still on and one of the cameras was still rolling), IIRC.

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ladycyndra December 2 2016, 18:12:15 UTC
WTF happened to him? WHAT THE FUCK

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mimblexwimble December 2 2016, 18:20:16 UTC
This should have been his only response the entire conversation: "You’ll read about it in the book, I had have a really hard time getting over my defensiveness and blind spots about sexism and racism and diversity and all those things."

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sixdemonhag December 2 2016, 19:37:25 UTC
This missed the spot where he said, paraphrasing, that we all look the other way when we're not going to be directly affected - and take a look at your iPhone if you think you don't. Which is true. I didn't vote for Trump and I'm horrified that he's president, and I think badly of people who did vote for him. And I've been feeling a bit superior to those people. But he's got a point, if you read more than is posted here. Because while I dislike the circumstances under which my phone and my computer came into being - I still have them. And while there may be people here who went way out of their way to make sure they have conflict-free, exploitation-free devices, I'd say the vast majority don't. Are we pro-slavery, pro-exploitation?

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blackjedii December 2 2016, 20:09:43 UTC
As long as it's super-poor laborers in another country. As much as I luff Nintendo it still makes me a little queasy that they get their products from FOXCONN. But it's going to take some srs overhaul and conscientiousness to change that and I can't see that happening unless everyone withholds their wallets to a whole ton of companies. :/

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ceruleanst December 3 2016, 00:18:38 UTC
Well, okay, the only way in this world to Walk Away From Omelas is to not be alive. It is still gravely disingenuous to say that there's no difference between the rather easy choice, with no personal cost, to not vote for a racist villain, and the choice to try to get by without a phone nor a computer in the midst of a capitalist society. (Conflict-free, exploitation-free devices do not exist right now, so anyone who has gone out of their way to acquire one has been scammed.)

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grace_om December 3 2016, 00:58:17 UTC
Yes. I am an imperfect participant in a consumerist and often exploitative society. But this POS openly courts white supremacists and puts their flunkies into his cabinet, ignores all pretense of avoiding conflict of interest, kisses up to dictators if they flatter him, promises to force innocent Americans to register their religion, and brags about sexual assault. I don't feel particularly hypocritical for looking askance at those who voted him into office, even if they're otherwise "nice," "good" people.

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