Orange Mutant Crushes Invisible Hand's Finger. Corporate Neoliberal Insiders Angry.

[evildevil]

Kenyan Marxist Communist Mooslim Tyrannical King Obama Bows to Corporate Oligarchs. Tells Working Class to Accept Reality and Enjoy the Freedom to Fail on their Own. Neoliberals Already Looking for the Next HillaryBama 2.0

How the Democrats could win again, if they wantedWhat makes 2016 a disaster for Democrats is not merely the party’s epic

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[blackjedii]

LJ_cut this thing pls

[blackjedii]

I doubt it. Liberalism today is an expression of an enlightened professional class, and their core economic interests simply do not align with those of working people. One thing we know about professionalism is that it exists to shield insiders from public accountability. If coming up with a solution to what ails liberalism means listening to people who aren’t part of the existing nonprofit/journalistic in-group, then there will be no solution. Liberals would rather lose than do that.

Yep. Pretty much. Ivory towers and all that.

[lovedforaday]

If rich liberals had listened to such people, Donald Trump might not have been able to lure away so many millions of working-class voters.

Um, white working class voters. But if I learned anything from some of these big p progressive essays is that the wwc is the end all and be all. "If only the Democrats did x y and z, people willing to vote for a white supremacist would have voted for Dems." Please. I really wonder how many white people decided to vote for Trump before the general election and when.

Oh, praise for Trump... Interesting.

It also signals that Mr. Trump is a different kind of Republican, willing to take on big business, at least in individual cases.

lmao No he's not.

[blackjedii]

Thanks to the electoral college makeup, WWC is what you have to win to cover your bases. Where does diversity tend to live? In cities like New York, San Francisco, LA, Miami, Richmond, NoVa, all places that Clinton did overall well in.

But thanks to losing the working class vote in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, she lost. And unless non-whites either move to those areas overwhelmingly (AND support Democrats bc it is in no way given that someone is liberal-minded) or else Dems reach out to working whites, they cannot win where they need to. And it's not like I recommend pandering bc I damn well hate pandering, but you have to do - something

[lovedforaday]

Also as we've said in this community before - Obama, a black dude - WON THESE AREAS. Why? Because he himself said he went to them, for one.

I don't get why this point keeps being brought up. White people can and do like individual persons of certain other ethnic groups and still be bigoted as hell. In interviews some folks said they voted for Trump because of BLM or, what he said from the very beginning, brown people immigrating to the US.

I'm having trouble feeling anything but anger for the people who voted to ruin my, and other peoples lives because a white supremacist made their latent racist feels tingle. I probably wouldn't vote if the Dems keep chasing the WWC, let's be real here, like they have for years. What the fuck do I have to lose after Trump and co. get through?

unless non-whites either move to those areas overwhelmingly (AND support Democrats bc it is in no way given that someone is liberal-minded)the GOP most likely get a bigger share of the Black vote if the main planks of their platform weren't racist. but

[lovedforaday]

If I'm still able to vote. How could I forget that the kind folks of Missouri voted for Voter ID laws. Who knows what hoops we'll have to jump through to even get birth certificates.

[meadowphoenix]

At that Indiana town hall, Obama did not show this kind of fight. “You cannot look backwards,” he said then. “And that doesn’t make folks feel good sometimes, especially if it was a town that’s reliant on a couple of big manufacturers. But they’re going to have to retrain for the jobs of the future, not the jobs of the past.”

Yeah, because those jobs aren't coming back. It's silly to believe they are. My mom has worked for manufactures of various sorts for her entire career and they were always intending on automating those jobs. They're gone. The point of the industrial revolution was not giving stable jobs, it was efficiency, which by necessity is going to reduce human interaction. Like, what's to fight for?

[yeah_banana]

Carrier said they were going to cut 2000 jobs, but now say 1,000 are staying. If it was Obama that "saved" 1000 jobs the headline would be "Obama loses 1000 jobs to Mexico." I wonder what kind of tax incentives had to be given to keep those jobs here?

Not to mention that 1000 jobs is basically nothing in the scheme of the whole country (like the article says). That isn't going to work on a national scale. Those jobs aren't coming back. And anyone that thinks Trump is going to put the needs of workers before the wants of employers is deluding themselves.