Gig Harbor attorney wants superdelegates to feel financial pain - if they’re supporting Clinton

[pairatime]

Andrew Williams doesn’t think violent threats are the right way to persuade Washington’s Democratic superdelegates to back Bernie Sanders for president

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[car_kids]

Great first post OP!

Honestly, it only makes sense that these delegates who use money of the people, listen to the people. But ya, know that's such a huge concept to grasp, let's not bother. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Serious note though, it is pretty clear cut why there are super delegates and what the reason behind them is and yet we don't question it for a bit. This is the reason why nothing changes from the status quo.

[browneyedguuurl]

Mte. DWS all but said they are there to ensure the party has the last say.

Ugh she's the worst. I hope Tim Canova is able to defeat her.

[pairatime]

Should it be question it? At the end of the day it's the party leadership, and those that fund them, that also have to support anyone that wants to run and they are far more active then most voters so it is wrong that they get some voice as well? Look what's happening to the Republican party leaderships right now, they had no say and there are standing against their own nominee. Also keeping in mind that the 'party's' voice only really matter in a very close race.

[martymcfly85]

Wow never thought i'd see something from gig harbor on here.

[pairatime]

Are you from the PNW as well?

[martymcfly85]

I am 😊

[pairatime]

Very cool, I'm in Tacoma myself, it's unexpected to find another localish person here.

[browneyedguuurl]

I fucking hate superdelegates. There is nothing democratic about them. If your state votes for someone by huge margins you give that person your vote, period. These people are the ones who pay you after all. I think it's a great plan and I hope for the next election they do away with this system and caucuses. Mess.

[jeliza]

I see the point, and superdelegates make about as much sense as the electoral college, but let's be real, if washington dems did a real primary and not a caucus, Bernie wouldn't have won, and I am pretty sure most of our superdelegates know that. (I caucused for Bernie, this isn't sour grapes.)

[tabaqui]

But, he said, people who believe Sanders is going to lose the nomination because of superdelegates are “ignoring the fact that Clinton is winning in pledged delegates, and is winning in the popular vote nationally as well.”

“Sanders folks would have a reason to sort of be outraged if these superdelegates were going to overturn the will of the people, but I haven’t seen any evidence that is going to happen,” said Artime, a delegate representing Sanders at next month’s Democratic state convention.

Which makes a lot of this 'outrage' seem like sour grapes. Sure, our voting/delegate/campaign finance system isn't awesome, and we need to make a *lot* of changes (Citizens United being the first), but when he's not actually winning via popular vote? Just sounds whiney and foot-stompy to make it all about the superdelegates.

[sweetmizre]

this is literally exactly what I don't understand.

Sanders isn't the will of the people ... and neither Sanders nor many of his supporters seem aware of that.

[pairatime]

They mostly seem convinced he will sweep the rest of the primaries and become the pledge delegate leader. Just like they swore he was going to win New York and he will win California big and get like over 300 delegates from it alone.

[tabaqui]

Exactly. It's baffling. Of course 'rigged votes!!' is the cry, but are they really? I haven't seen evidence of anything more than incompetence.