European Socialist Cops Puts to Shame the Real Americans of NYPD.

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Countrymen not impressed by Swedish cops’ subway heroics

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Everyone is gushing about the Swedish cops who stopped a Manhattan subway beatdown - except their compatriots back home

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[kate_mct]

The fact that it's an ordinary thing everywhere else makes me sick and sad for my country.

[synekdokee]

Okay I have to ask - what *would* happen in the States if two homeless men got in a fight in a subway in front of cops?

[sobota]

They would have been tazed, pepper sprayed, or beaten. Maybe even shot. Who knows. But it wouldn't have been this.

[qara_isuke]

I cannot speak for all departments, since blanket statements are impossible.

But I know my coworkers handle distressed/in crisis individuals all the time, without needing to resort to violence. We deal with a large amount of ECOs (Emergency Custody Order) and TDOs (Temporary Detention Order), since our department's jurisdiction includes a major hospital where surrounding counties send major psychiatric cases and combative mental or substance abusing patients. Basically, the officers are supposed to deal with them exactly like that -- try to calm them down, listen to them, and prevent them from hurting themselves or others with safe restraint methods until EMTs can arrive to assist.

I think that should be the standard for every department, personally. The training DOES exist, whether departments decide to implement it or not....well. That's another story.

[lovedforaday]

let's not pretend euros are lambs when it comes to racism. but good for them for acting like decent human beings.

[synekdokee]

Let's not pretend Europe is a cohesive nation or culture, so exactly who are you referring to by "Europe?" In Sweden at least the level of racism isn't even near the level of what it is in the States. Just because they haven't abolished racism doesn't mean they're not better at dealing with race politics than Americans.

[bananainpyjamas]

I'm sure it's easier to deal with "race politics" and ignore any racism that does exist when the vast majority of the country is white. The fact that the notoriously racist and anti-immigration Swedish Democrats doubled their share of the vote in the 2014 election certainly doesn't suggest that Sweden is trending in the right direction.

ETA: The UN Commission on Human Rights certainly thinks Sweden has a race problem.

[synekdokee]

Lmao I didn't say Sweden doesn't have racism, I said it's a fuckload worse in the US. But I'm guessing that sense of American Exceptionalism makes it hard to not fall on the "but other countries aren't racism free either!" excuse.

http://www.salon.com/2014/08/29/a_un_watchdog_released_a_report_on_racism_the_u_s_and_we_are_not_doing_well/

[vvalkyri]

They were kinda astonishingly gorgeous.

[synekdokee]

I never undestrood the hero culture in the States.

[evilnel]

How is recognizing people for doing something exceptional "hero culture?" Have you ever been here or lived in an urban area? When a lot of diverse groups of people live together, friction happens. And it's human nature to mind your own damn business and walk on by rather than intervening in a potentially dangerous situation. There's a whole field of study out there about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

Call me crazy, but when somebody risks their safety for another person that they don't know, I think that's exceptional. I don't think there's anything wrong with recognizing people for doing a good deed, especially when they are out of their element or have no real reason to be invested.

But by all means, keep trying to argue how culturally inferior and backwards the U.S. is because it is different from your experience.

[ladycyndra]

THIS. Also, you said it way better than I could.

[bleed_peroxide]

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