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djinndustries December 12 2013, 14:06:13 UTC
At what point does cultural appropriation become cultural appropriation exactly? If a cholo dressed like a rockabilly white guy is that cultural appropriation? If he did, would anyone give a shit? Are you trying to tell me that poor Mexican gangsters are proud of their cultural heritage and we should somehow respect the crime and violence associated with it?

I think her whole "woe is me" schtick is bullshit; I don't need to wave cultural appropriation all over it to make that a fact.

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bleed_peroxide December 12 2013, 14:41:00 UTC
I think that cultural and racial theorist, George Lipsitz, described it best: "The calculated use of a cultural form, outside of your own, to define yourself or your group. [...] When the majority culture attempts to strategically anti-essentialize themselves by appropriating a minority culture, they must take great care to recognize the specific socio-historical circumstances and significance of these cultural forms so as not to perpetuate the already existing, majority vs. minority, unequal power relations ( ... )

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djinndustries December 12 2013, 14:50:00 UTC
This is an intelligent response and I appreciate it, though it wobbled a bit at the end.

That said, I don't think donning the garb of "Latino gangsters" (I apologise for the paraphrasing to poor Mexican gangsters, the Mexicans were mentioned later in the article) can be equated with wearing a war bonnet or a medal of honour. Unless you consider teardrop tattoos to be a badge of honour. For the people that get Chinese tattoos without knowing the meaning, I shake my head and pray for natural selection to take its course, but I don't see the point in getting bent all out of whack because some idiot decided that he would get a tattoo of "greed" and it ended up looking like "poor". Same thing here.

Lana is an idiot, but I'm not sure she's committing a cultural sin.

What about all those people that wore keffiyehs after we started wars abroad? Are they making a huge cultural faux pas or is this how cultures get brought together and ultimately integrated, fashion, then music and art, the religion and so on?

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oystermato December 12 2013, 15:41:31 UTC
Cultural appropriation is annoying because it is basically taking a small facet of a different people's culture and using it as a costume or some form of temporary entertainment, as if that small facet is representative of the whole culture. These seemingly harmless, "it's all in good fun!" acts are not how cultures get brought together, as you pose. This is how stereotypes are created and perpetuated. This is how sexualized geishas might be at the forefront of people's minds when they think Japanese culture (see: Katy Perry). Then comes around the fetishization of Asian women as quiet and demure and submissive. This is how teardrop tattoos, dressing in a certain way and hanging out in a certain kind of neighborhood becomes associated with Latinos. Then comes the criminalization of Latinos, which you should know is a real thing ( ... )

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chaya December 12 2013, 14:20:38 UTC
Celebrity tag?

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ponyboy December 13 2013, 03:50:55 UTC
mte. also side eyeing a few comments simply bc she's talked openly about being exploited/used by older men.

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mimblexwimble December 13 2013, 08:24:02 UTC
intent is irrelevant here - whether she did it to "appreciate" the culture, make a point, or for art, it is still cultural appropriation and it is still wrong.

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leelakin December 13 2013, 14:35:00 UTC
idk, I get the point she's trying to make, but why does she have to act out being a latina instead of for example hiring an actress who is actually of latin american descent?

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mimblexwimble December 13 2013, 08:22:43 UTC
(Also, what's the strategy for a person of color who wants to turn all of this cultural appropriation on its ear? Dressing like Martha Stewart? Maybe Donald Trump or Brittany Spears? But let's be honest: Even if a POC did that, mainstream America probably wouldn't even notice because white culture is mainstream culture.)

POC literally have to do this to survive in America (and most of the west). We don't dress in our traditional clothing if we want to be taken seriously/not get stared at/get a job, etc.

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poetic_pixie_13 December 13 2013, 15:57:47 UTC
thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis

so fucking much

white people never realize how much we have to do just to literally survive

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