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executivehpfan December 28 2012, 22:27:16 UTC
How incredibly fucked up. I hope those families are able to complete the process and bring home their babies before the legislation takes effect.

I've been in a cloud of school and work for the past few months, so I may be missing something here, but...did anything predicate this particular move by Putin?

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lakomka87 December 28 2012, 22:50:06 UTC
well he's always been an asshole?
anyway, what this article doesn't mention, is that this law is supposed to be the 'punishment' for the Magnitsky bill

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pleasure_past December 28 2012, 23:00:16 UTC
Oh wow. After reading the article in the OP my heart went out to the people whose adoptions are being interrupted by this, but I was almost willing to assume pure motives from Putin (for once), given that earlier this year an American actually sent her adopted Russian child back and last year an American abused her adopted Russian child to get onto TV. But, um, it was probably foolish of me to ever consider giving Putin the benefit of the doubt on anything.

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lakomka87 December 28 2012, 23:27:07 UTC
these are individual cases (there had been more of them before actually, but not lately), there needs to be a better screening process, but most of the russian children adopted by american parents end up living wonderful lives. but what saddens me the most, is that healthcare here is fucked and the reason a big portion of children given up for adoption is poor health (even minor heart problems), a lot of the adopted children end up receiving medical attention in america that isn't provided to them in russia.

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door December 28 2012, 22:55:57 UTC
I can't help but be reminded of that American woman who put her adopted son on a plane back to Russia because he was "difficult" and wonder if this isn't in part some retaliation for that.

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moonbladem December 28 2012, 22:59:45 UTC
MTE. I thought this legislation was also partly in response to that.

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tadpool December 28 2012, 23:16:03 UTC
Yeah, that's what I was thinking about too. :(

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lakomka87 December 28 2012, 23:19:21 UTC
they use it as a front, but it's not the real reason

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lamardeuse December 28 2012, 23:43:04 UTC
Over the past 20 years, 60,000 Russians have been adopted by Americans

This isn't anything but traficking of children across international boundaries. There's money involved - the American families have it, and the Russian adoption agencies/government agencies need it. Enough already.

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mangosorbet007 December 28 2012, 23:55:29 UTC
Very true but it's not like Russians are lining up to adopt these children. From what I understand, only children Russians have turned down are even made available for international adoption. So while international adoption has a high probability to turn into a racket, for kids with physical and mental challenges I'd actually say that being adopted by foreigners is pretty much their only chance at decent care and a productive, happy life.

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sio December 29 2012, 00:05:54 UTC
thank you. well said.

also it's not like it's so incredibly easy for Americans to adopt American orphans either. they make up so many bullshit excuses that it's no wonder people go to other countries in search of a child to adopt....not to mention that bio-mothers can sign all the paperwork saying they want to give up their children, then can turn around and take their child back, scammers who pretend to be pregnant, etc.

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pleasure_past December 29 2012, 00:36:14 UTC
I find this comment incredibly problematic. Giving up a child is one of the most difficult decisions a person can make and there is nothing wrong or two-faced about thinking for a while that you might make it and then deciding in the end that it's not actually what is best for you or your child. Meanwhile, choosing to adopt from a foreign country specifically because the idea of birth parents having absolutely no rights is appealing to you makes you a pretty shitty person who really has no business raising an adopted child.

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Geeeee papasha_mueller December 28 2012, 23:59:29 UTC
@Washington reacted sharply to the new law Friday. The State Department issued a statement saying it deeply regrets “the Russian government’s politically motivated decision.” It also expressed hope that adoptive parents and children “who have already met and bonded” would be allowed to complete adoption procedures that were initiated before the law took effect.@

Das ist Bullshit.
'Deep regret' and 'expressing hope', 'sharp reaction', my ass.

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Re: Geeeee anwyn18 December 29 2012, 01:57:35 UTC
...and what are they supposed to do? Go in and kidnap the children?

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Nuh, papasha_mueller December 29 2012, 07:15:54 UTC
they can't do much about that.
But firing the reporter who loves sharpness would do a lot of good.
He possibly can grind knives.

What I don't understand is this focus on children - there are better things in this law.

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Re: Geeeee sfrlz December 29 2012, 04:22:46 UTC
I don't understand what your point is here?

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sio December 29 2012, 00:08:48 UTC
i'd suggest adding the "fuck this guy" tag, OP.

because, really, Putin--fuck you. you don't give two shits about the abandoned children in your country and don't pretend that you do....or you'd realize it's better for them to be adopted out of country than sit in orphanages, where they are almost always ignored and, in many cases, abused. yup, that's SO much better than a loving American family.

fuck you.

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