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debussy in ontd_football

How the FIFA became resistant to arguments (and new presidents)

Jan 21, 2015 00:02

Sepp Blatter or no Sepp Blatter: that's the question that keeps the football world in its grip now that a new president has to be chosen. But more important still is the question: how do you make an organisation that is so endemically corrupt healthy again?

( It took me close to an hour to translate all of this due to its length, but I urge everyone to click the link and take the time to read. It really is incredibly interesting. LOTS of receipts under the cut, as well! I wanted this to be as complete and informative as possible )

very serious, blatter's hate tag, ugh, fifa, world cup 2018, wank...wank everywhere

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ladyseraph_756 January 21 2015, 05:34:20 UTC

This was a great read, thanks for this!

debussy January 21 2015, 21:37:05 UTC

You're welcome! If you'd like to read more articles like this, there are a few more I could translate...

ladyseraph_756 January 21 2015, 21:42:01 UTC

Yes please! I love all the in-depth stuff, and I wish I could do a bit more about posting articles and getting a discussion going

debussy January 21 2015, 21:58:45 UTC

Great! I posted a list of articles in the comments. I could work my way through all of them but if you could let me know which of them you'd be more interested in reading, obviously I'd get to those first. :-) Just so I've got an idea.

marsyke January 21 2015, 07:01:46 UTC

That was an interesting read ( ... )

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Prince Ali jazzypom January 21 2015, 09:00:20 UTC

a good summary of his views and aims is here

another article

debussy January 21 2015, 21:20:57 UTC

Thank you for the additional information!

the4thjuliek January 21 2015, 07:47:43 UTC

Thank you so much for translating this very interesting piece!

Another, more radical proposition on the site of New FIFA Now, is that European governments need to insist on a temporary commission tasked with reforming the FIFA.

I wonder, will governments ever allow this to happen? Yes, they say it's a radical proposition but spending tax payers on one sport is never a popular decision. Here, cricket is by far, the biggest sport and there's a LOT of corruption and match-fixing and stuff. We have a league here (the IPL) and the owner of my city team is the chairman of the International Cricket Council (the FIFA of the cricketing world). He is basically the cricketing version of Sepp Blatter but the government is not investigating a lot of the corrupt acts he's done because they fall under legal loopholes. Meanwhile, the hockey and football federations don't even have the proper funds and facilities and people are angry that so much importance is given to cricket. Maybe it's different in Europe.

Would anyone be interested in reading ( ... )

debussy January 21 2015, 21:33:42 UTC

You're very welcome! There are a number of other articles on the site -similar in fashion to this one- but I've noticed today that some of them date months back. Not that that makes them any less relevant, but would it still be okay to post these translations in that case? Seeing as how the community also functions as a "news site ( ... )

ladyseraph_756 January 21 2015, 21:50:12 UTC

I tend to scratch my head a little re: FFP so that one might be good. I also love the sound of the European winners one and the one about buying stars

Thanks a lot! I'll see what I can do about posting more. There's a couple of really interesting articles I read the other about Rangers and sectarianism in the Guardian. I think some sort of semi-regular discussion post might go down fairly well.

the4thjuliek January 22 2015, 07:10:45 UTC

Sorry for the late reply!

IA, the 1st and last 2 articles look the most interesting but if there's anything particular that catches your attention, please post it anyway :)

Thanks again!

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Interesting article jazzypom January 21 2015, 09:03:29 UTC

I know that FA and FIFA have had big beef for a long time (since FIFA got formed, actually, and it's been only worse over the years). It would have been nice if FA took a stand, but - they're FA.

Thanks for the article. I need to read it again and then respond.

debussy January 21 2015, 21:36:05 UTC

You're very welcome! There are a number of other articles on this particular site, on a variety of subjects within the world of football. Do you think there'd be an interest in such a thing? From the community's perspective. IMHO, they're almost all very interesting and relevant, but some of them were written a few months ago.

Examples:

- Why European football almost always has the same winners
- Finances in football, and how unstable they are (voluntary redundancies, exorbitant transfer fees, etc.)
- The myth of the football trainer who makes a difference
- The best keepers keep the most balls from going on. Seems logical, no?
- Why shooting from a distance is the most beautiful and stupid thing a player can do
- Why the team that wins the toss also wins penalties more often
- A football trainer should never take players with him to his new club, or should he?
- Buying stars? This is how many Cristiano Ronaldo's a club can handle.
- Financial Fairplay will only make the football competition even more unfair.

Oh yeah, definiately jazzypom January 21 2015, 21:53:13 UTC

I do think that there's some hunger for that sort of discussion in this sub, especially if you put pictures in them :P

I do like the finances in football, for real. As well as the football coach bringing in his own staff. Moyes didn't do that this time around (when he got hired by Real Sociedad) which is better, really.

Financial Fairplay - I'd like to read that myself. I'm pretty unclear on that topic, tbh.