TW For Slut Shaming, References To Rape

Apr 19, 2011 20:14

Parents, Don't Dress Your Girls Like Tramps, writes columnist LZ Granderson at CNN.com.

HIghlights:

  • LZ Granderson: Some parents dress their young girls in provocative outfits
  • Retailers have encouraged this behavior by marketing inappropriate clothing
  • He says it's OK to blame retailers, but it's parents who are ultimately responsible
  • Children need ( Read more... )

fashion/modeling, parenting, rape/sexual assault, what kind of fuckery is this?, children, body image

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heymeghann April 20 2011, 15:14:23 UTC
It's an interesting article, but I don't really feel that it's in a man's best interest to be writing things that he knows nothing about. To me, it's just like a guy walking around claiming that abortion is wrong. He has no first-hand experience, so who is he to say what's right and wrong, or what's appropriate or inappropriate for little girls?

I know I'm gonna catch a lot of hell for this comment, but it's just the way I feel about it.

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factorywannabe April 20 2011, 15:20:29 UTC
I know exactly what you mean. I know that men feel an intense connection to their own child, but there are also a lot of guys that just leave. While a guy does have emotions for the baby, they will never understand what women have to go through when deciding to have an abortion or not.

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teleens_journal April 20 2011, 15:32:13 UTC
Both of your comments have caused something to really crystallize for me:

Modesty, in and of itself, is a fluid concept. What's 'modest' for me might not be for you.

That said, I can remember going into a "Burlington Coat Factory"- type store a few years back and being utterly appalled at the tight-fitting vinyl jeans that were being marketed to prepubescent girls.

I do think that the author of the article was right about one thing - these things wouldn't be available if people weren't buying them and it's a serious issue in our culture that we aren't allowing young girls to be just that - girls. And the author calling that 8-year-old the 'sexiest girl in the airport' made me throw up in my mouth a little. It also made me completely disregard his opinion, which I think was a shame because I know he had a few valid points - he just expressed them in the worst, most victim-blaming way possible.

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factorywannabe April 20 2011, 15:17:01 UTC
A kid is a kid is a kid. Yeah, the 8-year old should be showing her stomach in her clothes, but I'm more creeped out that a grown man referred to her as sexy and trampy. I find that men only call women sluts or trampy when a woman is secure in her own body and wears what she likes, or enjoys sex and isn't ashamed of it.

I just love how guys can sometimes be shirtless in public and have sex with as many girls as they want, it's okay. However, when a girl is doing the exact same thing, it's immortal and slutty. Guys should get some ~slut-shaming too!

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factorywannabe April 20 2011, 15:17:15 UTC
*shouldn't

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teleens_journal April 20 2011, 15:24:29 UTC
Guys should get some ~slut-shaming too!

How about no one gets shamed for their sexual choices so long as everyone involved is of age?

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varioussorrows April 20 2011, 15:32:24 UTC
Too right. As long as everyone involved is a consenting adult that there's nothing to be ashamed of regarding sex and IMHO the idea that there is only feeds into this kind of issue.

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teleens_journal April 20 2011, 15:54:37 UTC
People are more receptive because it's coming from a dude, and that's not okay.

So much this. Women have been saying this for years, but all of a sudden a guy says it and I have to see it all over Facebook.

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teleens_journal April 20 2011, 16:20:08 UTC
^

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tamerterra April 20 2011, 15:56:59 UTC
"I mean, that is the purpose of a push-up bra, right? To enhance sex appeal by lifting up, pushing together and basically showcasing the wearer's breasts."

Or, seeing as they're padded, to hide your nipples from all those wankers who love to point them out when they're visible. -_-;;

"It's easy to blast companies for introducing the sexy wear, but our ire really should be directed at the parents who think low rise jeans for a second grader is cute."

If everywhere is selling one type of fashion, trying to get hold of something different can be almost impossible. I was about fourteen the last time 'low rise' jeans were in fashion, and I've been a full-time skirt-wearer ever since.

This whole article is pretty disgusting, IMO.

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meleth April 21 2011, 03:08:59 UTC
I mean, a push-up bra goes beyond padding to create the image of larger, perkier breasts. That's what it's for. The fact that society is training young girls that they have to do that (often before they've even developed breasts to enhance) is distressing.

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lvsinsanity April 20 2011, 16:03:23 UTC
Just like what everyone else said here about the first paragraph and his execution of it, but I also felt gross reading how he described that he didn't give a damn if he sent his kids to therapy for how he acted so long as 'they dressed appropriately'.

That and I know 'break his legs' is just a term for how upset he'd be without actually doing it, but fuck if that didn't freak me out slightly.

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phoenix_anca April 20 2011, 16:20:30 UTC
There's this, too. I found that a bit disturbing, just it was overshadowed by the WTF of the rest of the article.

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lvsinsanity April 20 2011, 16:51:58 UTC
The entire article is wtf, yes. I was just pointing out something I noticed other's hadn't instead of repeating.

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