Reproductive Autonomy: Crossing the Species Border

Jul 30, 2010 14:42

Reproductive Autonomy: Crossing the Species Border
By Helen Matthews


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maryaminx July 30 2010, 19:03:59 UTC

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cpl593h July 30 2010, 19:13:31 UTC
Um, I'll pass on this shit thanks.

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apricotflower July 30 2010, 19:16:31 UTC
Yes, there are many parallels between domination over women and domination over nature. Yes, the way we (humans, especially the white supremacist capitalist patriarchy) approach and use nature is absolutely appalling in many cases, and incredibly short-sighted, considering the "resources" of this planet are limited, and there is a big difference between living in a symbiotic relationship with nature and the gross exploitation that is practiced in many places on the earth, and yes animals are often treated horribly, and often that is needless, etc etc etc ( ... )

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_like_weeds July 30 2010, 19:23:07 UTC
I have NEVER said that everyone who eats meat is evil, I'm very aware of class & geography playing a huge role in the food people have access to. I'm vegan but I have no problem with hunting and small scale animal agriculture, though I would not personally do it if I was able to avoid it.
However, I can't justify people who live in an area where they could eat a vegan diet or could get their animal products from local farms, for cheaper, and choose not to because the taste of flesh is more important than uh, anything else. That makes me sick.

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apricotflower July 30 2010, 19:29:31 UTC
fine, maybe evil was over the top. This just hits my buttons.

Except you did just here:

My perspective is that animal agriculture is not necessary and that factory farming is one of the most harmful industries in the world, not just to animals, but to the humans that work in them and live near them, the environment, and many other issues. Eating animal products is not healthy or neccessary.

I'll give you that factory farming is incredibly harmful, but you made a blanket statement saying that eating animals products is not healthy or necessary. That is not taking into account location, geography, class, or anything else.

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_like_weeds July 30 2010, 19:34:58 UTC
I mean it's not necessary for humans as a species, from a biological standpoint, sorry if that was unclear. All I meant to say that a human will never get sick or die from eating a balanced animal-free diet. I did not mean to say that everyone has access to such a diet.

I always take class and geography into account because I'm aware of the privileges I have in terms of transportation, location, income, etc that allow me to choose the diet I do. I would never fault for example,a person who works multiple jobs, doesn't have time to cook, and the closest place to get food is mcdonalds. I blame mcdonalds, of course, every time.

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anandrine July 30 2010, 19:16:48 UTC
yeah... I can see I'm not gonna be reading the comments here today. thanks for posting tho, op, it's an interesting article.

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maynardsong July 30 2010, 20:34:51 UTC
MTE.

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meganphntmgrl July 30 2010, 19:18:08 UTC
Humans =/= animals. Period. Calling the machinery used "rape racks" is fucking disgusting, but because of the trivialization of what human rape victims go through. Then there's the transfail in here, and the absolutely horrifying equivocation of women with breeding animals.

Fail, fail, fail all over.

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cpl593h July 30 2010, 19:19:17 UTC
this comment is good.

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maryaminx July 30 2010, 19:20:03 UTC
Calling the machinery used "rape racks" is fucking disgusting, but because of the trivialization of what human rape victims go through.

MTE

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_like_weeds July 30 2010, 19:25:58 UTC
The industry calls them rape racks, not animal activists, or at least the industry called them that first. Of course it is fucking disgusting, just like how dairy farm workers repeatedly call cows "she" as they beat them. Getting angry about the article and not the reality is twisted.

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