Modeh Ani

May 17, 2011 01:11


I am moving and studying for the bar.

So... not a lot of time, but please enjoy this thread, I don't know why I didn't see it earlier.

In case they delete the link, a high school girl is asking if she should think of the Rebbe first thing in the morning and thank him for everything she has. Apparently, she was at a farbrengen and there was a ( Read more... )

chabad, idolatry, rebbe, moshiach

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anonymous May 17 2011, 09:20:03 UTC
I believe these people are building a Modern Day Egel Hazahav.

It would seem the Taiva was not entirely eradicated as was thought

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leto ext_242767 May 17 2011, 11:40:24 UTC
In the higher intermediate zone (noga) people get some real connection with the Divine. But they tend to believe they are totally enlightened when they are not.
Sometimes their true spiritual experience feed their egos to the degree that they start to associate themselves with some spiritual archetype.--like the messiah or Hashem himself.
Sometimes their actual spiritual experiences themselves come from some lower entity in order to create a zone of suffering on Earth. This was the rebbi. This does not mean that his spiritual experience s were not tru. But rather that this is the characteristic of the intermediate zone . They person affected by it can be of great good to some people and yet still can unbelievable harm and evil in the world.

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llennhoff May 17 2011, 12:26:31 UTC
. Let's imagine this with the other two. Imagine a gadol writing something that could be misunderstood as permitting adultery or murder as a way to become closer to God. How would that work?
It would work just like Torat HaMelech.

On what I hope is a happier note, where are you moving? Not back to CH I hope.

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onionsoupmix May 17 2011, 12:33:24 UTC
yeah, I was thinking about that sefer when I wrote that line. But even there it is presented as an unfortunate situation, not a fundamental way to connect to god.

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onionsoupmix May 17 2011, 12:33:40 UTC
we are moving back to cleveland

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onionsoupmix May 17 2011, 12:34:59 UTC
and also that author is not near the caliber of the rebbe, just some radical dude in EY.

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schwevy May 17 2011, 12:49:58 UTC
congrats on finishing law school! good luck with the bar! where are you moving to?

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onionsoupmix May 19 2011, 13:28:08 UTC
cleveland got a job there :)

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Mazel tov on the job! schwevy May 22 2011, 02:47:09 UTC
What kind of law? I'm excited for you.

Now, after your time away - how to you avoid the same issues you left behind?

JRKmommy

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Re: Mazel tov on the job! onionsoupmix May 22 2011, 02:54:20 UTC
thanks. Let's email each other for specifics b/c this field of law is specialized & I don't want to be found by crazy people :)

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sethg_prime May 17 2011, 13:43:05 UTC
I came across a guy on a Jewish discussion forum in the pre-Web era who had been a BT (I don’t remember if he was still frum) and had attended Chabad schools. He said he had once asked a teacher there what the difference was between the Chassidic concept of the Rebbe being “an atzmus in a guf” and the Christian concept of the Incarnation. He did not feel that he got a straight answer.

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llennhoff May 17 2011, 13:57:52 UTC
It seems unlikely the teacher was competent to speak about the theological meaning of the supposed incarnation.

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