Following Authority

[onionsoupmix]

If it is Da’at Torah to hurl cinder blocks at human beings, then we want to see a clear halachic ruling on the matter from one of the great rulers, and then we too shall act likewise. In the meantime we will warn against it. - Rabbi Moshe Grylak

Okay, so according to FM, an immodestly dressed girl is assaulted with a cinder block. Some rabbis,

Comments

Hmmm

[chanief]

I'm not sure how to respond to this one. I'm astounded at even the thought that if there were a clear halachic ruling on it, they would act likewise. Really?! Does he even realize what he is saying?

How does this sort of thinking differ from that of an extremist muslim who is willing to blow himself up in a crowded marketplace on the say so of his great ruler?

Re: Hmmm

[antidos]

If a well known rabbi would issue edict that a certain person is for sure a descendant of Amalek, it would become a mitzvas ose to kill that person. Like kriyas shema.

[ymarkov]

Does Rabbi Moshe actually think
How can you read his words as anything other than grim sarcasm?!!

Hijacked definition of democracy ב‘ ’ה

[24816]

When the majority of the population get offended and cannot hope for successful resolution, excesses are unavoidable.

The way I understand Polonsky (machanaim.org), if you believe that society can close road traffic during special events and prohibit people walking around naked, then municipalities should run referendum to determine what their population considers offensive and outlaw it as well. Minorities should retain minimum inalienable rights (not exceeding common world practice).
But currently liberals put anything they want into definition of democracy and freedom.

[anonymous]

I don't think he was being serious in that statement. There are no really great Rabbis and any Rabbi that would support such behaviour would not be seen as great.
He was truly being sarcy
R

[anonymous]

Is there a language barrier here?

I just read it as sarcasm - as in "these violent idiots think they are being so holy, but if they actually stayed in yeshiva and studied instead of going out and assaulting people, they would realize that there is nothing in the Torah that supports them."

I'm frankly surprised that you wouldn't read it that way.

I just read the "warn" thing as "we'll say that this is bad".

Mishpacha magazine is fairly influential in the charedi world, so I was pleased to see this.

JRKmommy