Was worried this might be inflammatory since it's largely just fluff. Good to see a positive response. *grin*
I don't really believe anybody will vote for McCain who was going to vote for Clinton - they'd be insane. The two have nothing in common. But willfulness can be a deadly enemy of reason.
has probably cost the Democrats any hope of winning in the fall.
I completely disagree with this.
The protracted Democratic primary season has kept the race strong and invigorated for months longer than it would have been. More people are involved, more people are emotional about it, more money has been spent, records have been not only broken, but decimated. Clinton can ruin part of that effect by holding on doggedly, but if they can come together over the next two months, I believe the party will be stronger than ever.
Democratic resources are not drained. Millions more people are donating and volunteering than have EVER before done so. We have no idea what the limits of available support are!
I've heard as many Obama supporters declare they'd rather vote for McCain than Clinton. There's a lot of work to be done, and like you said, the FIRST thing to do is put down the anger.
if they can come together over the next two months, I believe the party will be stronger than ever.
Gods, I hope you're right. I guess I'd like to think people would be just as willing to unite behind beating McCain without having to have spent all this time and energy beating each other, but maybe not. Maybe the only way to get the temperature up was to start at home.
Democratic resources are not drained. Millions more people are donating and volunteering than have EVER before done so.
Let's hope they keep it up. My fear is that a summer of rising gas prices and food prices will really screw up people's budgets, the amount of time they have to give, and their willingness to travel to rallies and events and such.
Yeah, I'm not worried that Clinton supporters will vote for McCain (though I could be fooling myself), but I am worried that they simply won't vote. And those missing Democratic votes could make a big difference.
But I'm with you. I've been saying for months that I'll happily vote for whichever Democrat got the nomination. And while it's a delight to have an actual race, rather than a seeming pre-ordination, I'm glad it seems to be done -- at least in the primary form.
Ugh, not voting isn't much better than voting for McCain, but it's certainly a far stretch from good. Whatever the case, I predict this fall will shatter voter turnout. Gotta get registered...
DAMN STRAIGHT you've gotta get registered. And you've got to find out which of your friends aren't registered and get them to register AND to actually show up at the polls.
*grumble* Kids these days ... no sense of responsibility....
I don't know anything about Sebelius, but I have been hoping that somewhere there's a strong, unifying white female VP candidate that *didn't* just spend three months in the most graceless losing streak ever. Got info?
One thing to point out on this that may potentially benifit the Dems. The fact that Clinton and Obama have been so cutthroat with eachother over the past few months may actually work to the party's benifit. No one likes old news and since the Clinton campaign did such a wonderful job of trying to assasinate Obama's reputation there should not be alot of "new" material for the McCain group to work with where as McCain has largly flown under the radar for the past 6 or 8 months while the catfight has been going on should provide plenty of mud for slinging
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Re: Dems Vs. RepsonecraneJune 8 2008, 17:33:26 UTC
That's a very good point. I've been really curious to see how this whole McCain problem is going to come out as the fight transitions across party lines for the first time. You're absolutely right - he's been hidden under all the Obama/Clinton nonsense, which is a mixed blessing. It's partly good because nobody remembers that he exists - and it's partly bad because nobody knows what a colossal fuckwit he is.
I'm hoping the combined might of the Democratic party, in their fury over these last farcical eight years, will make McCain's doublespeak and absurdity so hopelessly transparent the whole way to November. And I'm DESPERATELY hoping that Obama has something to show for his beautiful rhetoric. I'd feel really stupid if he turned out to be the Dems' version of Bush - all image and no substance.
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I don't really believe anybody will vote for McCain who was going to vote for Clinton - they'd be insane. The two have nothing in common. But willfulness can be a deadly enemy of reason.
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I completely disagree with this.
The protracted Democratic primary season has kept the race strong and invigorated for months longer than it would have been. More people are involved, more people are emotional about it, more money has been spent, records have been not only broken, but decimated. Clinton can ruin part of that effect by holding on doggedly, but if they can come together over the next two months, I believe the party will be stronger than ever.
Democratic resources are not drained. Millions more people are donating and volunteering than have EVER before done so. We have no idea what the limits of available support are!
I've heard as many Obama supporters declare they'd rather vote for McCain than Clinton. There's a lot of work to be done, and like you said, the FIRST thing to do is put down the anger.
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Gods, I hope you're right. I guess I'd like to think people would be just as willing to unite behind beating McCain without having to have spent all this time and energy beating each other, but maybe not. Maybe the only way to get the temperature up was to start at home.
Democratic resources are not drained. Millions more people are donating and volunteering than have EVER before done so.
Let's hope they keep it up. My fear is that a summer of rising gas prices and food prices will really screw up people's budgets, the amount of time they have to give, and their willingness to travel to rallies and events and such.
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But I'm with you. I've been saying for months that I'll happily vote for whichever Democrat got the nomination. And while it's a delight to have an actual race, rather than a seeming pre-ordination, I'm glad it seems to be done -- at least in the primary form.
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*grumble* Kids these days ... no sense of responsibility....
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I'm hoping the combined might of the Democratic party, in their fury over these last farcical eight years, will make McCain's doublespeak and absurdity so hopelessly transparent the whole way to November. And I'm DESPERATELY hoping that Obama has something to show for his beautiful rhetoric. I'd feel really stupid if he turned out to be the Dems' version of Bush - all image and no substance.
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