I wonder no more.

Dec 28, 2010 05:12

At one time, I wondered how the Americans are meekly letting some government bureaucrats dictate what light bulbs they may or may not use. Now I see that for the proud people who tolerate and excuse the lowest level federalized creatures feeling in their pants and under their skirts at the airports and possibly elsewhere, that's a very natural ( Read more... )

civil liberties, tsa, light, outrage

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I agree in principle, anonymous December 28 2010, 15:17:10 UTC
What do you want to block?

I mean, what words do you use? If you want Congress to do something, you have to give them something to sign.

Do you want it enacted into law that when patting down or physically searching commercial airline passengers (and their checked bags?), TSA employees are bound by the same probable cause and/or reasonable articulable suspicion requirements as any other Federal law enforcement officer, and that those passengers do not lose their Fourth Amendment protections because they are trying to get on an airplane.

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perspicuity December 28 2010, 15:21:22 UTC
we'll note that CA also allowed ROLLING POWER BLACKOUTS.

why yes, you're paying for power, and they decide you've had enough for the day. zzzt. power gone. regardless of your ability to pay (sure, go buy a generator). that antic lasted for far too long and was AMAZINGLY ludicrous.

CA is the leader is loony laws like banning lightbulbs.

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ilcylic December 28 2010, 15:47:45 UTC
CFLs cost a hell of a lot more, and for all the purported advantages, they're so much more sensitive to power fluctuations that they don't last any longer than incandescents. As far as "waste", goes, I pay for my own bloody electricity.

I guess telling people what they can spend their own money on really is the defining characteristic of the left in the USA.

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scarybaldguy December 28 2010, 16:24:47 UTC
Not to completely derail the point of the discussion, but CFLs don't cost any more by watt than incandescents, according to my Scientific Research (browsing the shelves at market). As to durability, in the five years since I've switched entirely to CFLs, I've had to replace one, in an outdoor fixture in Colorado.

I do agree with telling people what they can do with their money is reprehensible, but the Rs are just as bad about that as the Ds.

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coldservings December 28 2010, 16:27:15 UTC
Durability is _highly_ variable. Some folk have had good experiences, others not so much. As for your statement of there being no cost difference, well, I'd love to know where you shop. That hasn't been my experience.

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anonymous December 28 2010, 17:26:49 UTC
The savings is usually over stated for the colder climates. Since most building are thermostat controlled the savings in electricity will be spent on increased heating costs during the winter. It is not as simple as looking at the difference in wattage.

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ext_249198 December 28 2010, 18:06:07 UTC
I disagree with that being the low-hanging fruit.

1. Many people would be switching to these bulbs anyway, especially as they ARE getting better. I've willingly switched to them in my house, though there's no law making me.

2. Few people be willing to be active in favor of an issue like lighbtbulbs.

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