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sunnydays4me September 3 2010, 13:55:55 UTC
When the grid finally goes down it will be an event of unprecedented magnitude.
I can't go Perto-indipendent like you. BUT, I am one heavily armed son of a bitch who's not afraid to take what he needs.

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oldhorseman September 3 2010, 15:40:33 UTC

I doubt the whole grid will go down permanently anytime soon. (Although there's always that possibility.)

Some people high-up have apparently known for a long time that the days of Cornucopia are limited. That's probably why no new refineries have been built. (Why expend the resources to build them when there won't be much oil to refine?) And why the outlying grid and infrastructure have been neglected.

At some point the people managing infrastructure have to look at the situation and decide whether to use their decreasing manpower and equipment to support a few miles of pipe/cable in the city that thousands of households depend upon, or a few miles of pipe/cable that a dozen folks on a back road need.

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sunnydays4me September 4 2010, 03:17:07 UTC
Well we are boned. Be it peak oil or dollars becoming worthless. When it goes down let me know if you need a good hand with a gun, and my own arms and ammo. I've decieded when everything goes to hell I'm going to go into the private security business.

Hey! Once we nuke Iraq we'll have most of whatever oil is leftover!

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