in b4 "lol your catholic schoolgirl is showing"

Jul 21, 2010 02:04

So I was on today's RP!S, and there was a secret about someone doing coke. It could have been true, or a troll secret, or whatever. But I found myself really disturbed by several replies. A lot of people replied condemning drug use, which is what I would have replied with if I weren't too chickenshit to reply to anything in rp!s (lol). But then ( Read more... )

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anzila July 21 2010, 06:14:37 UTC
Given I have two cousins who don't have fathers anymore because of drugs, and a brother who has almost thrown his life away for pot on several occasions, yeah, I'm really not that tolerant of those who condone drug usage.

Some people get dealt a bad hand and get in over their head before they realize what's going on, but those who glamorize drugs, or profit from their distribution, or use them when they damn well know what's going on, it makes me a little sick. What about all the families who get hurt, or all the crime committed to going into the sale? I've got to agree with you, and I think those people are being far more naive than you are.

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okroginator July 22 2010, 05:22:46 UTC
Yeah, it's the glamorizing that really bothers me, I think.

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okroginator July 22 2010, 05:25:06 UTC
I didn't mean to imply that the issue was black and white - you're right, there is a lot of gray. My beef was with the people who were shouting down those who spoke up and said, "I don't think it's funny/edgy/cool that you were doing drugs while performing mod duties," because apparently THAT MAKES YOU A NAIVE STUPID BITCH. And yeah, the criminalization of addiction is a terrible thing.

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alienchrist July 21 2010, 07:22:56 UTC
I think it's a huge mistake to assume people who joke about a sensitive subject don't understand the gravity of it. Finding humor in darkness is a classic coping mechanism. People who have been the worst crap tend to have the best sense of humor about it - when you are surrounded with violence, or war, or abuse, many people begin to see it humorously because they cannot survive flying off the handle and getting upset every single time the subject comes up. They'd lose their minds or have no energy to do anything else. You say here "Drugs aren't funny, they ruin lives." But what I'm reading from it is, "The seriousness of drug use upsets me. I'm upset when people joke about it because I think it comes from indifference or not understanding their situation." But there must be room in the world for everyone to have an opinion, and just because someone does not share yours or express it in a method you find suitable does not necessarily mean they are callous and unfeeling. It's not as if a good person never makes bad jokes ( ... )

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okroginator July 22 2010, 05:51:14 UTC
First off, thanks for the long and thoughtful reply! ^^

To address your first point, I definitely didn't mean for it to come off that way, and looking up, I definitely used too many aggressive italics. Joking about drugs in general is not what bothered me - I've certainly made many drug-related jokes in my lifetime and I'll probably make more in the future.

The secret itself went something like, "I'm so dedicated to my game that I once accepted an app while coming off a coke high." Aside from the usual slew of "lol cool story bro"'s and cries of "troll in the dungeon," some commented saying things like, "I think your priorities are a bit screwed up," or, "I don't think that's necessarily an example of good dedication." Then, several anons commented to those comments, saying things like, "don't be so sheltered, people use drugs in the real world, shocking but true," and "how dare you judge the OP," and generally berating several commenters that spoke up against drug use ( ... )

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okroginator July 22 2010, 05:53:10 UTC
Also, regarding the Netherlands, I think we (Americans) have yet to achieve a baseline societal maturity that most of Europe seems to have. See also: minimum drinking age. :/

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flibbergibbet July 21 2010, 13:07:50 UTC
I saw that secret too, and I was similarly... well, not quite disturbed by those comments because I'm so numb to that bullshit, but. Yeah ( ... )

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okroginator July 22 2010, 05:28:33 UTC
Yeah, I was disturbed by those comments in conjunction with what I know about cocaine as a "rich white person drug," because combined, they seemed to paint a picture of a bunch of snotty affluent teenagers/young adults patting themselves on the back for engaging in more risky behavior without stopping to consider any consequences. The entitlement, I guess, is what I'm trying to get at. Not sure I'm making much sense in what I'm trying to get across.

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waaaaaaaaaluigi July 21 2010, 14:46:11 UTC
WALUIGI HATES DRUGS. WAAH.

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okroginator July 22 2010, 05:29:07 UTC
Good boy, Waluigi. /pats him

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ironyaficionado July 22 2010, 15:14:21 UTC
He's a good guy. And I really don't understand the principle of doing drugs like that. There's a saying that whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger, but if you wreck your shit early on, it just stays with you. The moral and sociopolitical implications are also far too valid to ignore.

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